Comments on: Hall Dominates IBS 600-Yard Nationals

By: Mike

Mike — Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:48:49 +0000

In Fifty cal FCSA, where we shoot 5 rounds each target, it requires 2 misses to DQ. One miss costs 36″ (shooting a 72″ target at 1000 yds)

By: Dave Tooley

Dave Tooley — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 13:48:56 +0000

I agree that a penalty would probaby be a better way to do it. 1 MOA per shot is how NBRSA does it. I’ve seen people lose a couple of shots there and still come back and finish well in the 2 gun. I’ve suggested this in the past and have gotten a lot of resistance.

I can’t explain the rash of DQ’s this weekend. We’ve never had that large a percentage before.

We are going to have T-shirts made up for the group. They’re going to have our head strategically placed in another part of our body.

Dave

By: Kevin Ridling

Kevin Ridling — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 02:20:30 +0000

How would wind result in a disqualification?

EDITOR: If the wind blows a shot on to your sighter target it’s a DQ. Likewise if wind blows you off paper entirely so you have less than five shots, it’s a DQ. Basic IBS Benchrest rule: “F. DISQUALIFICATION OF TARGETS AND COMPETITORS
1. Except as hereinafter provided a target shall be disqualified for having less than the required number of shots”.

By: Dave Tooley

Dave Tooley — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:04:45 +0000

Anyone that was there knows you can’t take the sighter target down. Both sighter and record are on the single target frame and there was a black or orange highpower spotter disc on the sighter target marking the last shot.I was one of the ones DQ’d Stupid is as stupid does. There are those of us who have shot the sighter target and those of us who are going to shoot it. Ask Sam Hall about the sign he puts up every match there. He’s one of those who has already done it.

Dave

EDITOR: Dave, that is a very good answer explaining the situation as it exists at Oak Ridge. At some other ranges there is one large target frame (that moves up and down), but the sighter and record targets are on separate backers that slide in and out of the frame on dovetailed grooves. There are many other ways to attach two targets separately within one target frame. Also, of course, the sighter targets could simply be removed from the backing frame at the end of the sighter period. It’s really not advanced technology to separate sighter target from record target.

Clearly, though, the rules aren’t so much to blame as “driver error”. Yes, Sam confirmed that he made the same mistake in the past. The question remains though–for a one-shot misfire, should a reasonable penalty be imposed (that allows the shooter to continue to participate), rather than a DQ which effectively takes the shooter out of the match entirely.

Given the time and expense involved in attending National-level matches, where some shooters may have traveled 2,000 miles or more, it may be worth discussing the option of a less draconian alternative to the DQ. Imposing a 1 MOA penalty would open the group to (roughly) 6″. If that’s not tough enough, the penalty could be 2 MOA plus a score reduction.