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	<title>Comments on: F-Classer Wins State Title with Home-Built Savage</title>
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		<title>By: Rod</title>
		<link>https://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2009/07/f-classer-wins-state-title-with-home-built-savage/comment-page-1/#comment-46314</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2015 14:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the great contribution. Who makes that barrel block type stock?

Cheers
Rod]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the great contribution. Who makes that barrel block type stock?</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Rod</p>
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		<title>By: Jim See</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim See]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Congrats again John, I&#039;m happy your rifle, and you shot so well!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats again John, I&#8217;m happy your rifle, and you shot so well!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Whitley</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Whitley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am having trouble accepting that 3100 fps is realistic out of a 284 Win with the 180&#039;s.  Either you have a &quot;one in a million&quot; barrel (literally) or the chronograph is broken and not giving correct readings.

If your rifle is giving that kind of performance, don&#039;t touch anything and use it until it&#039;s dead as your chances of getting another to do that are - well - &quot;one in a million&quot;.

Robert Whitley]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am having trouble accepting that 3100 fps is realistic out of a 284 Win with the 180&#8217;s.  Either you have a &#8220;one in a million&#8221; barrel (literally) or the chronograph is broken and not giving correct readings.</p>
<p>If your rifle is giving that kind of performance, don&#8217;t touch anything and use it until it&#8217;s dead as your chances of getting another to do that are &#8211; well &#8211; &#8220;one in a million&#8221;.</p>
<p>Robert Whitley</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Hardy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Hardy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Congrats are in order.  Great job!  However, 58.2 grains of H4831SC in a straight 284?  3100 with H4831SC?  That is a first for me.  I have shot as much as 60 grains of H4831SC in a 284 Shehane (more capacity) just for test purposes with a 31.5&quot; Broughton and never approached 3100 fps.  RL-17 got me to 3100 in one barrel but blew primers in another before I got there.  Both of these barrels were screwed into three lug actions (Gilkes-Ross and a Barnard).  About 53 grains of RL-17 took Robert Whitley&#039;s straight 284 to 3003 with some stiff bolt lift.

In short, I have never heard of a straight 284 that would do this or even come close.  My 284 Shehane will not do it with H4831SC.  57 grains gives me 2951.  Charles Ballard&#039;s straight 284 does not come close to 3100 as he is running around 54 grains of 4831SC.  Bryan Litz runs around 52 grains of H4350.

I can&#039;t even imagine the load work development where you would even attempt 58.2 grains of H4831SC in a straight 284.  You 284 is shooting in the area of a 7mm WSM running a hot load.

Hold on to that barrel and the action. It is unlikely that you will EVER find another combo like that. Just an unreal accomplishment.  You have schooled more than a few of us who though we knew what a 284 would do. Just Damn!

Congrats again,
Jim Hardy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats are in order.  Great job!  However, 58.2 grains of H4831SC in a straight 284?  3100 with H4831SC?  That is a first for me.  I have shot as much as 60 grains of H4831SC in a 284 Shehane (more capacity) just for test purposes with a 31.5&#8243; Broughton and never approached 3100 fps.  RL-17 got me to 3100 in one barrel but blew primers in another before I got there.  Both of these barrels were screwed into three lug actions (Gilkes-Ross and a Barnard).  About 53 grains of RL-17 took Robert Whitley&#8217;s straight 284 to 3003 with some stiff bolt lift.</p>
<p>In short, I have never heard of a straight 284 that would do this or even come close.  My 284 Shehane will not do it with H4831SC.  57 grains gives me 2951.  Charles Ballard&#8217;s straight 284 does not come close to 3100 as he is running around 54 grains of 4831SC.  Bryan Litz runs around 52 grains of H4350.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t even imagine the load work development where you would even attempt 58.2 grains of H4831SC in a straight 284.  You 284 is shooting in the area of a 7mm WSM running a hot load.</p>
<p>Hold on to that barrel and the action. It is unlikely that you will EVER find another combo like that. Just an unreal accomplishment.  You have schooled more than a few of us who though we knew what a 284 would do. Just Damn!</p>
<p>Congrats again,<br />
Jim Hardy</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Whitley</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Whitley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By the way, I recently purchased 10 Brux barrels.  I have to concur that Norm and Ken have been doing nice barrel making, and their cut rifled barrels are as good as any of the best custom barrels.

Robert Whitley]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I recently purchased 10 Brux barrels.  I have to concur that Norm and Ken have been doing nice barrel making, and their cut rifled barrels are as good as any of the best custom barrels.</p>
<p>Robert Whitley</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, 3100 out of a straight 284!  Is this correct?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, 3100 out of a straight 284!  Is this correct?</p>
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