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	<title>Comments on: New Tactical Bolt Action Rifles from Les Baer</title>
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		<title>By: Tom Bracco</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Bracco]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I purchased one in .308 about 3 years ago. It deivered as advertised using Federal Gold SMK ammo in both .168 and .175 BTHP as well as Black Hills.
My only regret is that they are no longer made or available or I&#039;d buy one in .223 as well.
It shoots as well or better than my Tubb 2000 or Accuracy International and they cost twice as much using similar Nightforce scopes on all three.
If you can find one grab it up...you won&#039;t be disappointed !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I purchased one in .308 about 3 years ago. It deivered as advertised using Federal Gold SMK ammo in both .168 and .175 BTHP as well as Black Hills.<br />
My only regret is that they are no longer made or available or I&#8217;d buy one in .223 as well.<br />
It shoots as well or better than my Tubb 2000 or Accuracy International and they cost twice as much using similar Nightforce scopes on all three.<br />
If you can find one grab it up&#8230;you won&#8217;t be disappointed !</p>
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		<title>By: ABEL ESQUIVEL</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ABEL ESQUIVEL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 03:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi I want buy a rifle in .308 win, but I dude in a CZ 750 S1 MI  or a Les Baer tactical, I have see the data group of CZ and is very good, but I think that the LES BAER is better, can you say me what is more accuratte? THANKS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi I want buy a rifle in .308 win, but I dude in a CZ 750 S1 MI  or a Les Baer tactical, I have see the data group of CZ and is very good, but I think that the LES BAER is better, can you say me what is more accuratte? THANKS.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 01:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HYPE?! What a foolish thing to say. It is important to know what the rifle can do under controlled circumstances. Repeating a 0.5 inch group for 10 shots is nothing short of legendary. Whether YOU can duplicate it isn&#039;t the issue. Knowing what the gun is capable of IS! What? Do you want them to say...&quot;well it can do 2&quot; groups for some people and 5 inch groups for others blah blah?&quot; THINK!!! I&#039;m amazed, and if I could afford one right now, I&#039;d buy the 338 Lapua and go have some serious fun! Hype?! Hilarious!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HYPE?! What a foolish thing to say. It is important to know what the rifle can do under controlled circumstances. Repeating a 0.5 inch group for 10 shots is nothing short of legendary. Whether YOU can duplicate it isn&#8217;t the issue. Knowing what the gun is capable of IS! What? Do you want them to say&#8230;&#8221;well it can do 2&#8243; groups for some people and 5 inch groups for others blah blah?&#8221; THINK!!! I&#8217;m amazed, and if I could afford one right now, I&#8217;d buy the 338 Lapua and go have some serious fun! Hype?! Hilarious!</p>
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		<title>By: Theo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Theo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 21:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve got one on order in .338 Lapua.  I severely doubt I&#039;m capable of matching or exceeding the guaranteed grouping, but look forward to getting &quot;up to snuff&quot; and eventually, hopefully, beating Les.  He, apparently, is the one who test fires them before they go out the door and the targets proving the gun&#039;s accuracy are all from him.  So far, no reviewers have been able to even match his groupings, that I&#039;ve found.

With regards to &quot;field accuracy,&quot; of course that isn&#039;t field accuracy.  That&#039;s controlled environment bench rest accuracy.  Even if you duplicate the exact conditions, it still doesn&#039;t guarantee YOU&#039;LL group that low.  Everyone shoots differently, environmental factors influence accuracy, etc...  He backs up his guarantee with targets that prove that individual gun can do sub 1/2&quot; MOA and that&#039;s as far as that guarantee goes.  The rest is up to the individual shooter and shooting conditions, as should be expected.  No manufacturer guarantees that you&#039;ll shoot what the gun&#039;s capable of, just that the gun is fully capable of hitting the declared mark.

In response to Joel: These are bolt action, generally long range, precision rifles.  If you want something in .223 grab one of his ARs that I&#039;ve heard are incredibly accurate for what they are.  Personally, I don&#039;t see the 5.56 as a bolt action round at all and assume Les feels the same.

Now, to the gun itself, I do feel the gun may be a bit pricey given the components and such, but if it performs as declared, it&#039;s well worth that and more, in my opinion.  You&#039;d be hard pressed to build your own or get any other for that price that will do sub 1/2&quot; MOA, unless you have the hookup.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got one on order in .338 Lapua.  I severely doubt I&#8217;m capable of matching or exceeding the guaranteed grouping, but look forward to getting &#8220;up to snuff&#8221; and eventually, hopefully, beating Les.  He, apparently, is the one who test fires them before they go out the door and the targets proving the gun&#8217;s accuracy are all from him.  So far, no reviewers have been able to even match his groupings, that I&#8217;ve found.</p>
<p>With regards to &#8220;field accuracy,&#8221; of course that isn&#8217;t field accuracy.  That&#8217;s controlled environment bench rest accuracy.  Even if you duplicate the exact conditions, it still doesn&#8217;t guarantee YOU&#8217;LL group that low.  Everyone shoots differently, environmental factors influence accuracy, etc&#8230;  He backs up his guarantee with targets that prove that individual gun can do sub 1/2&#8243; MOA and that&#8217;s as far as that guarantee goes.  The rest is up to the individual shooter and shooting conditions, as should be expected.  No manufacturer guarantees that you&#8217;ll shoot what the gun&#8217;s capable of, just that the gun is fully capable of hitting the declared mark.</p>
<p>In response to Joel: These are bolt action, generally long range, precision rifles.  If you want something in .223 grab one of his ARs that I&#8217;ve heard are incredibly accurate for what they are.  Personally, I don&#8217;t see the 5.56 as a bolt action round at all and assume Les feels the same.</p>
<p>Now, to the gun itself, I do feel the gun may be a bit pricey given the components and such, but if it performs as declared, it&#8217;s well worth that and more, in my opinion.  You&#8217;d be hard pressed to build your own or get any other for that price that will do sub 1/2&#8243; MOA, unless you have the hookup.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 23:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like the varmint model. I like that it&#039;s blacked out.
I like that it&#039;s cut rifled.

But,, those aren&#039;t varmint cartridges.
I would add also that 10sht grouping is not an indicator of field &#039;accuracy&#039;. So that implication is merely hype at this point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the varmint model. I like that it&#8217;s blacked out.<br />
I like that it&#8217;s cut rifled.</p>
<p>But,, those aren&#8217;t varmint cartridges.<br />
I would add also that 10sht grouping is not an indicator of field &#8216;accuracy&#8217;. So that implication is merely hype at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 16:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those are sharp rifles. It seems odd that there&#039;s no 223/ 5.56 caliber offering.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those are sharp rifles. It seems odd that there&#8217;s no 223/ 5.56 caliber offering.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Brokos</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Brokos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Robert,

With all due respect, Les has been making some of the most the most accurate pistols and rifles for a very long time. I own several of his 1911&#039;s and after
spending a lot of money on other custom 45&#039;s I S--- canned them all and only own Les Baers. I also have one of his ARs in 223 and it will lay a ragged hole at 100 with gold medal ammo]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,</p>
<p>With all due respect, Les has been making some of the most the most accurate pistols and rifles for a very long time. I own several of his 1911&#8217;s and after<br />
spending a lot of money on other custom 45&#8217;s I S&#8212; canned them all and only own Les Baers. I also have one of his ARs in 223 and it will lay a ragged hole at 100 with gold medal ammo</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Whitley</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Whitley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 03:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very nice looking rifles but my brain still questions whether shooters will typically be able to meet that accuracy guarantee with typical &quot;match grade ammo&quot; (Fed Gold Medal Match, Black Hills, etc.).  While the match ammo made by these companies is excellent, to do 10 shot sub .5 MOA groups on any consistent basis typically seems to require (at least for me) some careful tailoring of the ammo to the rifle, fire formed brass, etc.  The rifles look great  and appear to have a lot of good components, although an LBC brand barrel is a bit of an unknown.  Then again, maybe Les Baer is also a great (but lesser known) high end accuracy barrel maker, and no doubt his customers will find out!

I wish him the best with his new product offerings.

Robert Whitley]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice looking rifles but my brain still questions whether shooters will typically be able to meet that accuracy guarantee with typical &#8220;match grade ammo&#8221; (Fed Gold Medal Match, Black Hills, etc.).  While the match ammo made by these companies is excellent, to do 10 shot sub .5 MOA groups on any consistent basis typically seems to require (at least for me) some careful tailoring of the ammo to the rifle, fire formed brass, etc.  The rifles look great  and appear to have a lot of good components, although an LBC brand barrel is a bit of an unknown.  Then again, maybe Les Baer is also a great (but lesser known) high end accuracy barrel maker, and no doubt his customers will find out!</p>
<p>I wish him the best with his new product offerings.</p>
<p>Robert Whitley</p>
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