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	<title>Comments on: Review of the GemPro 250 Scale (from My Weigh)</title>
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		<title>By: Jim Crow</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 17:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First, let me compliment you on a concise and well written/illustrated article. It brought to mind something a close friend of my grandfather (he was a watch repairman) once told me, “a man with one watch knows what time it is, a man with more than one is never sure of the time”.

I worked for an aerospace company as an industrial photographer. In those days    each step, each level of assembly of many of the products was documented by high resolution medium or large format cameras and these negatives became part of a permanent file maintained on each unit. One of my duties was to document every process of every department in the company, for training and quality assurance. 

We had a calibration and certification department and I spent a lot of time working with them. I documented them checking, verifying and certifying the scales used to mix the various chemicals for our plating, etching and other processes. We used Ohaus Scales exclusively. Dial O Gram Beam Balances were used for less critical processes and Digital Analytical units for the most critical like gold plating. I remember quoting my grandfathers friend and the chuckles it got from the “CalTechs”. They explained to me that they went to the suppliers and and selected from their inventory the units that gave the same result when weighing the “standard” weight that they used back at our facility.
The supplier unpacked a number of units and powered them up at least 24hrs before testing. Out techs never touched this “standard” without wearing gloves and cleaned it with ether before each use. The scales were calibrated monthly and tweaked to the give the same result when they drifted. Several of the labs where these scales were located were “clean rooms” and all of the others were controlled temperature and humidity environments and the scales were plugged into into voltage stabilized and filtered power supplies and they still drifted, requiring adjustments by our Ohaus trained techs.

This long dissertation is to show the nature of the instruments we rely on. 

In your case you are using an automatic dispenser to get close to your desired charge weight +/_.1gr and  trickling to final weight on another scale accurate to +/_.02gr that you calibrate to your “standard” for repeatability. This is a good close loop system, just don&#039;t add another scale or you&#039;ll drive yourself batty.(I now own 5 digital scales that I have acquired over the years and none of  them will give the same result when weighing the same check weight.) 

We build rifles as accurate as current technology can deliver. We carefully craft ammunition to remove as many variables as possible. Then we turn all this precision over to the vagaries of an INFINATELY fallible human to aim and pull the trigger under the worst/best that Mother Nature, Murphy and the Range Fairies throw at us. It is a small miracle that we get groups as small as we do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, let me compliment you on a concise and well written/illustrated article. It brought to mind something a close friend of my grandfather (he was a watch repairman) once told me, “a man with one watch knows what time it is, a man with more than one is never sure of the time”.</p>
<p>I worked for an aerospace company as an industrial photographer. In those days    each step, each level of assembly of many of the products was documented by high resolution medium or large format cameras and these negatives became part of a permanent file maintained on each unit. One of my duties was to document every process of every department in the company, for training and quality assurance. </p>
<p>We had a calibration and certification department and I spent a lot of time working with them. I documented them checking, verifying and certifying the scales used to mix the various chemicals for our plating, etching and other processes. We used Ohaus Scales exclusively. Dial O Gram Beam Balances were used for less critical processes and Digital Analytical units for the most critical like gold plating. I remember quoting my grandfathers friend and the chuckles it got from the “CalTechs”. They explained to me that they went to the suppliers and and selected from their inventory the units that gave the same result when weighing the “standard” weight that they used back at our facility.<br />
The supplier unpacked a number of units and powered them up at least 24hrs before testing. Out techs never touched this “standard” without wearing gloves and cleaned it with ether before each use. The scales were calibrated monthly and tweaked to the give the same result when they drifted. Several of the labs where these scales were located were “clean rooms” and all of the others were controlled temperature and humidity environments and the scales were plugged into into voltage stabilized and filtered power supplies and they still drifted, requiring adjustments by our Ohaus trained techs.</p>
<p>This long dissertation is to show the nature of the instruments we rely on. </p>
<p>In your case you are using an automatic dispenser to get close to your desired charge weight +/_.1gr and  trickling to final weight on another scale accurate to +/_.02gr that you calibrate to your “standard” for repeatability. This is a good close loop system, just don&#8217;t add another scale or you&#8217;ll drive yourself batty.(I now own 5 digital scales that I have acquired over the years and none of  them will give the same result when weighing the same check weight.) </p>
<p>We build rifles as accurate as current technology can deliver. We carefully craft ammunition to remove as many variables as possible. Then we turn all this precision over to the vagaries of an INFINATELY fallible human to aim and pull the trigger under the worst/best that Mother Nature, Murphy and the Range Fairies throw at us. It is a small miracle that we get groups as small as we do.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 20:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Funny finally the mainstream is catching on. I remember thinking several years ago why everyone in the world had to use reloading brand name scales for reloading instead of something much more precise and consistant like this??? I have used this same Gem pro for several years and couldn&#039;t be happier especially to get charges as exact as possible. Before this scale .1 gn variation was ok with me now I get mad when my dillon throws a variation over a .05 gns. Truely a great product especially for the anal long range shooters of the world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny finally the mainstream is catching on. I remember thinking several years ago why everyone in the world had to use reloading brand name scales for reloading instead of something much more precise and consistant like this??? I have used this same Gem pro for several years and couldn&#8217;t be happier especially to get charges as exact as possible. Before this scale .1 gn variation was ok with me now I get mad when my dillon throws a variation over a .05 gns. Truely a great product especially for the anal long range shooters of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Fraser</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan Fraser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 23:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been using a GemPro 250 for about 2 years now and it works very well (eventually)! The first one stopped working (became a random number generator) after a few days, the second one appeared to work okay, but measurements drifted unacceptably, the third one didn&#039;t work from the start. I gave up and put it away. Then for some reason after a few months I tried it again, and it worked, and has been working very well for over a year now. To use one of your US expressions, go figure!

I will add that I have no complaints about the warranty - it went back twice and was replaced without question both times, although postage to the US (I am Australian) was at my cost.

Alan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been using a GemPro 250 for about 2 years now and it works very well (eventually)! The first one stopped working (became a random number generator) after a few days, the second one appeared to work okay, but measurements drifted unacceptably, the third one didn&#8217;t work from the start. I gave up and put it away. Then for some reason after a few months I tried it again, and it worked, and has been working very well for over a year now. To use one of your US expressions, go figure!</p>
<p>I will add that I have no complaints about the warranty &#8211; it went back twice and was replaced without question both times, although postage to the US (I am Australian) was at my cost.</p>
<p>Alan</p>
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		<title>By: Turd B</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Turd B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[None available at Amazon however Ebay has them for $148.45 right now.  Well, a few anyway, one seller 260782346850  Sale ends in 3 days.

Editor: Thanks for the head&#039;s up. The units were available on Amazon when we released the story. You may be able to purchase directly from the manufacturer: www.myweigh.com but we don&#039;t know the price. It looks like Digital Scales AZ has them for $159.99: http://www.digitalscalesaz.com/MyWeigh-Gem-Pro-250-Digital-Scale]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None available at Amazon however Ebay has them for $148.45 right now.  Well, a few anyway, one seller 260782346850  Sale ends in 3 days.</p>
<p>Editor: Thanks for the head&#8217;s up. The units were available on Amazon when we released the story. You may be able to purchase directly from the manufacturer: <a href="http://www.myweigh.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.myweigh.com</a> but we don&#8217;t know the price. It looks like Digital Scales AZ has them for $159.99: <a href="http://www.digitalscalesaz.com/MyWeigh-Gem-Pro-250-Digital-Scale" rel="nofollow">http://www.digitalscalesaz.com/MyWeigh-Gem-Pro-250-Digital-Scale</a></p>
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