Comments on: Berger Adds 215gr and 230gr Hybrids to .30 Caliber Bullet Line

By: Guy

Guy — Mon, 21 Jul 2014 23:51:01 +0000

1:10 will do it.

By: Tim

Tim — Thu, 21 Nov 2013 04:58:26 +0000

Bryan,

Can you help me determine the best bullet for my rifle. I have the Sako TRG 42 in 300 WM. I like to use something as heavy as the barrel can handle. With a 27″ barrel and a 1:11″ twist, would the 230 gr pill still stable enough to maximize the potential of the gun?
I know your recommendation is for 1:10″ twist for 230 gr. Doing some math:

The Remington MSR: 24″ barrel with 1:10″ twist gets 2.4 spins out of the barrel.

My TRG 42: 27″ barrel with 1:11″ twist gets 2.45 spins out of the barrel. Is that enough for my TRG to stabilize a 230 gr?

Thanks,
Tim

By: lee

lee — Sun, 09 Jun 2013 17:33:29 +0000

Dear Brian,
Regarding the Berger Juggernaut 185 grain .30 cal

I am trying to find any difference between the target and tactical lines. I keep seeing that the tactical is meant to remain transonic and work with the 300 WIN MAG but haven’t not found anything other then the length of the tactical bullet is .050mm longer. Will this difference be beneficial to my accuracy at long ranger 1000yards.

By: Ronald Franklin

Ronald Franklin — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 08:24:23 +0000

I have been shooting the 230 Hybrid OTM in two different 300 Win Mag’s,both with 26 inch barrels.This bullet is very accurate shooting steel from 200 to 500 yards,it hit’s very hard you know when you score a hit.This bullet shot very well shooting groups on paper at 1000 yards,first five shot group shooting at 10 power with a Remington 700P 300 Win Mag was very good.All groups from the Savage 110BA 300 Win Mag were very good also,bullet speed a little slower than i like but it does a good job on steel or paper.

By: Bryan Litz

Bryan Litz — Thu, 10 Nov 2011 11:47:18 +0000

These new hybrid designs solve a long standing shortage of low form factor/high BC .30 caliber target bullets. A few years ago I wrote this article on the subject:

http://www.appliedballisticsllc.com/index_files/30cal_fullVersion.pdf

In summary, the article is titled ‘What’s Wrong with .30 Caliber”. Skipping to the punch line, the answer is: there are very few GOOD (high BC) bullet designs in .30 cal. Probably the reason why is that bullet companies have historically wanted to keep all their bullets mag length feed-able when loaded into ammunition. Given the vast myriad of .30 cal cartridges including several in military use, the resulting .30 cal designs had to distill to the ‘least common denominator’ in terms of mag length, leaving the world with a shortage of bullets optimized for performance in a single shot application.

This new line of low form factor, high BC Hybrid .30 caliber designs remedies this long standing problem. I hope you give them a try.

*Note these designs are longer than other similar weight bullets, and therefore need a bit faster twist:
1:12″ for the 155 and 168
1:11″ for the 185 and 200
1:10″ for the 215 and 230

-Bryan