Comments on: New Instructional Video for Long-Range Tactical Shooting

By: edlongrange

edlongrange — Sat, 07 Apr 2012 01:29:49 +0000

It appears that the producer took the comments to heart. I just looked at the current video and there appears to be none of the scenes which were complained about (at least as described above). Certainly there is NO indication that this video is intended for benchrest shooters.

Mr. Gilliand – Thank you for your service. I was the one that provided the lead to the story and, quite frankly, I’m sincerely sorry for the treatment you have received on this site.

I wish you the best on the sale of your video. And again, thank you for your service.

By: proulxlaw

proulxlaw — Fri, 06 Apr 2012 03:41:08 +0000

All of MAGPUL’s videos that I’ve seen (which is most of it) is all very well done. My son used MAGPUL equipment in Hadjiland and they passed around videos by MAGPUL that the Army allowed them to watch and made copies available. They never had this stuff back in the day when I was an 11B.

By: proulxlaw

proulxlaw — Fri, 06 Apr 2012 03:35:50 +0000

Don’t buy the video. Not spending money on stuff that sucks is the strongest statement you can send to the vendor of the crap. Save your money and get MAGPUL’s Precision Long Range Shooting video. Todd, the instructor isn’t a brain surgeon but, what he knows better than anyone I’ve ever seen in action is long range shooting. If our snipers in Hadjiland (Afghanistan) get this kind of training and tools it will only take 1 round to send Hadji home to Allah at extreme ranges. 1200 meter hits with .308. My son just got back from Afghanistan this past March.

By: Kelly Bachand

Kelly Bachand — Wed, 04 Apr 2012 22:43:06 +0000

Shoot, why didn’t I think of this?!

My “Kelly Bachand: I was on Top Shot” napkins, paper plates, and other stationary had very underwhelming sales…

Ok seriously though, I bet I could talk about some of these things accurately and insightfully. Panteao Productions, I’ll try to send you a note using your “contact us” link on your webpage.

By: Paul

Paul — Wed, 04 Apr 2012 15:12:27 +0000

This is an April Fools joke right ?

By: Panteao Productions

Panteao Productions — Mon, 02 Apr 2012 16:00:52 +0000

If you wish to critique our video it would help if you watch the video. Judging the content of a video by the trailer is like writing up a review of a motion picture after just watching the commercial for it.

Jim walks the viewer through all the steps of establishing long range shooting fundamentals and you see in the video the difference between dialing in a rifle and the final groups.

Editor: You made the trailer to sell videos. What ever confusion it creates is on you. Your comments do not alter the fact that Jim started with a wobbly folding table and employed a cheap one-piece rest that is known to yield poor results with this kind of rifle. If this is a poor set-up, why feature that in the trailer?

By: Trevor

Trevor — Mon, 02 Apr 2012 15:59:50 +0000

I would not be pleased with a group like that at 100. In fact I would be livid. I would check my rifle, optics, throw those loads out etc etc. A group like that to me indicates SOMETHING IS WRONG not something I want to stick with. Maybe a group like that at 500 yards would be precision. Being a fellow SOF soldier I say that is not good shooting. Hopefully the shooting improves in the later videos. Good luck Gilliland

By: Jim Gilliland

Jim Gilliland — Mon, 02 Apr 2012 15:35:12 +0000

Thanks for the write up on the video. I do appreciate your honesty but as normally done on the internet blogs, you are seeing only a piece of the picture and you are distorting the facts. The group shown was fired from the bench, and it was in fact a zeroing group, not a test group. After this i shoot one more from the bench then explain the point you mentioned about that specific set up and go to the prone position with bipod and sand sock. In that position I shoot a sub half MOA group. I’ll be the first to say that this being my first video I know now how to better show and you my content. I thing you find better talking points if you ACTUALLY WATCH the video. Thanks Jim

Editor: Fair enough. Critical commentary (and stills from video) removed. We did watch the video trailer provided on the Panteao website. But that doesn’t address the matters you mention. The producers should know that it doesn’t help your cause to show clunky set-ups on the trailer and a zeroing group that is not ID’d as such. Additionally, with a good solid set-up, you should be able to zero in three shots @ 100. After shot 1, dial center of X-hairs to point of impact. Shot 2 should be centered. Shot 3 to confirm.

By: Mark

Mark — Sun, 01 Apr 2012 22:06:03 +0000

Was the target at 100 yards? I own the same low quality rest and don’t find my groups suffering? It is pretty sad if that is at 100yards. Just my two cents.

By: Henry

Henry — Sun, 01 Apr 2012 17:15:31 +0000

Nothing wrong with trying to make a buck off of your name but this is weak….