Comments on: Savage Cancels 300 AAC Blackout Carbine Project

By: goran

goran — Thu, 21 Nov 2013 19:02:26 +0000

This is ridiculous and only shows ignorance regarding the 300 AAC/Whisper concept. The 300 AAC is capable of SUB-MOA at Subsonic and Supersonic velocities using a good platform with the proper twist rate of 1:7 or 1:8 in a 16″ barrel. The Factual Data is readily available and goes back to 1991 when JD Jones of SSK invented the 300 Whisper. Want a SUB-MOA pistol to go with your rifle? Just call T/C.

By: Brian W

Brian W — Fri, 07 Jun 2013 18:17:43 +0000

The reason they deep 6’d it is because of extraction issues. The design of the 223 boltface, ejector, and extractor will not allow the short blackout case to remain seated in the bolt during extraction. The case falls out of the boltface as soon as the neck clears the chamber and pops over against the bolt raceway. They shoot fine…

By: dennis

dennis — Thu, 04 Oct 2012 22:27:03 +0000

i had noticed 208 hornady,s,,220 sierra,s,,,240 sumthns,,,220 otm,,,,r these all round nose bullets,and wat is best 4 sub speeds,accuracy,and also maintaining a 1;8 twist opposed 2 a 1;7 twist,,,,,,r they using a max,mk

By: Jim Biesinger

Jim Biesinger — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 02:37:47 +0000

I have 4 bolt rifles, 2 chambered in 300 whisper with 1:10 twist which shoots anything from 100gr. to 168gr. very accurarely, one has 16 1/2″ barrel and the other a 17″. 2 are chambered in 300 blackout with 1:8 twist 16″ barrels which shoots anything from 100gr. to 240 gr. very accurately. All guns are built on savage 10, 16 and stevens 200 actions. one has an accutrigger, 2 have rifle basic triggers and one has a timmy trigger. Savage didn’t do much r&d apparently

By: Steve

Steve — Sun, 03 Jun 2012 19:21:57 +0000

I notice that the S&W M&P15 in. 300 Whisper/Blackout uses a 1:7.5 twist, just for this reason. And that particular rifle is reported to have outstanding accuracy with both 220 and 240 grain loads, even at longer ranges. I don’t know anything about what Savage did or didn’t try, but I’m a bit skeptical that they really couldn’t make this work in a bolt-action of all things.

By: joe kauffman

joe kauffman — Sun, 03 Jun 2012 14:19:21 +0000

Savage like most firearms companies isn’t known for just jumping into and back out of projects.

To even start this project it would have to look good on paper or they wouldn’t have spent the start up money in the first place.

Yes we as individuals may be able to make this project work for a specific application, however they must have found that it would not appeal to enough customers in the format that they could do as a company to continue on with it.

By: Dave Tooley

Dave Tooley — Fri, 01 Jun 2012 12:11:58 +0000

This announcement seemed odd to me also. I’m running a 14 1/2″ 1-9.5 barrel and have no trouble with Hornady Whisper ammo shooting 208s. I had an oppurtunity to shoot the 220 gr. Remington load this past week. I had one shot at 200 yds that performed strangely. The 208 and 220 are almost the same length. Puzzling. I know subs don’t like long barrels. Love the 300 Blackout. Way too much fun in a small suppressed bolt gun.

By: Doug

Doug — Fri, 01 Jun 2012 05:03:27 +0000

“we have tested many variants of this cartridge in various barrel lengths and rates of twist”

Sounds like they might have tried a few different combinations….probably didn’t just grab the first barrel off the shelf and decide to market it.

By: Show Me Guns

Show Me Guns — Fri, 01 Jun 2012 04:08:57 +0000

Their rifle had no accuracy because to stabilize the 220 gr sub sonic bullets you need a 1/8 twist rate, the 1/10 is good for the lighter supersonic bullets. But supersonic defeats the purpose of a “quiet” rifle.

By: lee gardner

lee gardner — Thu, 31 May 2012 23:12:57 +0000

Why in the world would this cartridge not be accurate? The whisper is a very accurate chambering. I guess i dont understand! Lee