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	<title>Comments on: Handy Excel Formula Predicts Useful Barrel Life</title>
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		<title>By: Mikecr</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mikecr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2012 15:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The reason you have to adjust charge upward with moly is cooling of combustion -not reduced friction.
e.g. this is not seen with WS2, and I haven&#039;t read of it yet with HBN.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason you have to adjust charge upward with moly is cooling of combustion -not reduced friction.<br />
e.g. this is not seen with WS2, and I haven&#8217;t read of it yet with HBN.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2012 00:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[moly has all but  disappeared from high power shooting, turned out to be a waste of time and money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>moly has all but  disappeared from high power shooting, turned out to be a waste of time and money.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Gibson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil Gibson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 22:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mikecr,

That&#039;s very interesting, I&#039;d not heard of the moly coating working in that way. I&#039;ve heard of TiO2 and some plastic materials being used to form a thermal barrier between the propellant gas products and the barrel in larger (artillery/tank) weapons, but not moly. Has any research been down to verify the effect or other materials used?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mikecr,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s very interesting, I&#8217;d not heard of the moly coating working in that way. I&#8217;ve heard of TiO2 and some plastic materials being used to form a thermal barrier between the propellant gas products and the barrel in larger (artillery/tank) weapons, but not moly. Has any research been down to verify the effect or other materials used?</p>
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		<title>By: Mikecr</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mikecr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 20:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The moly adjustment is also due to LATENT HEAT provided specifically with moly(not other coatings). This reducing local/throat temps.
But moly, and other coatings, may increase area that peak pressure is applied to. I don&#039;t know that one(need a strain gauge to see it).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The moly adjustment is also due to LATENT HEAT provided specifically with moly(not other coatings). This reducing local/throat temps.<br />
But moly, and other coatings, may increase area that peak pressure is applied to. I don&#8217;t know that one(need a strain gauge to see it).</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Gibson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil Gibson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 17:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Barry,

Yes, I quite agree, the lowered friction, would lower the time period the projectile is in the throat area as the shot-start pressure is lowered, it starts moving earlier. You still have the problem where you need a bit more propellant to attain the same velocity due to the slight mis-mash of the powder burn rate, the gas producton rate is not optimised to the bullet type. Perhaps a slightly faster buring propellant should be used, as per lighter bullets.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry,</p>
<p>Yes, I quite agree, the lowered friction, would lower the time period the projectile is in the throat area as the shot-start pressure is lowered, it starts moving earlier. You still have the problem where you need a bit more propellant to attain the same velocity due to the slight mis-mash of the powder burn rate, the gas producton rate is not optimised to the bullet type. Perhaps a slightly faster buring propellant should be used, as per lighter bullets.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Neil,
I think Moly increases barrel life by decreasing the bullet&#039;s dwell time in the throat. Just like using lighter bullets.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neil,<br />
I think Moly increases barrel life by decreasing the bullet&#8217;s dwell time in the throat. Just like using lighter bullets.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unable to load the spreadsheet.

EDITOR: Here is the direct link, http://accurateshooter.net/Blog/barrellifeupdate.xls . Note this is a very small file and should download almost instantly. It is a MS Excel file. You will need a program capable of opening Excel files. If you can&#039;t find the spreadsheet after right-clicking on the link, check your default download folder for your browser.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unable to load the spreadsheet.</p>
<p>EDITOR: Here is the direct link, <a href="http://accurateshooter.net/Blog/barrellifeupdate.xls" rel="nofollow">http://accurateshooter.net/Blog/barrellifeupdate.xls</a> . Note this is a very small file and should download almost instantly. It is a MS Excel file. You will need a program capable of opening Excel files. If you can&#8217;t find the spreadsheet after right-clicking on the link, check your default download folder for your browser.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Gibson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil Gibson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2012 12:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great little tool, but you might want to get you units and terms fixed though.

psi, not Psi
kJ/kg, not KJ/Kg
Either &#039;heat of explosion&#039; or &#039;calorific value&#039;, not &#039;heat capacity&#039;.

Also, as I can&#039;t see the formula used, how are you figuring in the effect of bullet frictional reducers (moly, etc)? Are you using the fact that their use will lower shot-start pressure and hence peak pressure for a given charge mass? Seeing as most barrels will be retired from use due to throat erosion and not bore wear, the effect of moly coating on barrel wear has always confused me? To get the required velocity means, for the same propellant type, upping the charge mass, which negates the advantage of the reduced shot-start pressure? Though I suppose such coating could be used to reduce bore (copper) fouling?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great little tool, but you might want to get you units and terms fixed though.</p>
<p>psi, not Psi<br />
kJ/kg, not KJ/Kg<br />
Either &#8216;heat of explosion&#8217; or &#8216;calorific value&#8217;, not &#8216;heat capacity&#8217;.</p>
<p>Also, as I can&#8217;t see the formula used, how are you figuring in the effect of bullet frictional reducers (moly, etc)? Are you using the fact that their use will lower shot-start pressure and hence peak pressure for a given charge mass? Seeing as most barrels will be retired from use due to throat erosion and not bore wear, the effect of moly coating on barrel wear has always confused me? To get the required velocity means, for the same propellant type, upping the charge mass, which negates the advantage of the reduced shot-start pressure? Though I suppose such coating could be used to reduce bore (copper) fouling?</p>
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		<title>By: jon spencer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jon spencer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2010 02:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I read that most barrel life worked out to around 8 seconds plus or minus a bit. 
This time is total time that bullets are traveling in the barrel.
 I punched a few numbers in a calculator and it looked like it was about right. 
It, the numbers seemed to work with very different guns and calibers and even some that were measured in inches or millimeters.
As always your mileage may vary.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read that most barrel life worked out to around 8 seconds plus or minus a bit.<br />
This time is total time that bullets are traveling in the barrel.<br />
 I punched a few numbers in a calculator and it looked like it was about right.<br />
It, the numbers seemed to work with very different guns and calibers and even some that were measured in inches or millimeters.<br />
As always your mileage may vary.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2010 01:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Really neat little bit of math. How was the difference for moly-treated projectiles quantified?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really neat little bit of math. How was the difference for moly-treated projectiles quantified?</p>
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