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	<title>Comments on: Peltor Folding &#8216;Shotgunner&#8217; Muffs Work Well for Rifle Shooters</title>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hi
i use peltor shotgunner at the range

is there a model in the range thats basically cuts &#039;all&#039; noise out,

a new builing site is being done next to my apt, and i could do with a cut all noise pair of muffs

thanks
Brian]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi<br />
i use peltor shotgunner at the range</p>
<p>is there a model in the range thats basically cuts &#8216;all&#8217; noise out,</p>
<p>a new builing site is being done next to my apt, and i could do with a cut all noise pair of muffs</p>
<p>thanks<br />
Brian</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Groom</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Groom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 17:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been using these exact muffs in OD Green for about 8 years now, and I have the following observations:
1. They work great outdoors with any calibers, including muzzle breaks and flash hiders that are on most of my semi-auto rifles, including my .300 Win. Mag A-Bolt which has a BOSS.
2. Indoors on ranges where magnum handguns and especially where rifles are being shot, they leave something to be desired, but I always go plugs and muffs, and problem solved.
3. Large earmuffs would likely negate the need for plugs and muffs, but they might also hinder proper cheek weld when using a rifle on an indoor range. Plugs and muffs with Peltor Shotgunners with any caliber is more than sufficient in my experience.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been using these exact muffs in OD Green for about 8 years now, and I have the following observations:<br />
1. They work great outdoors with any calibers, including muzzle breaks and flash hiders that are on most of my semi-auto rifles, including my .300 Win. Mag A-Bolt which has a BOSS.<br />
2. Indoors on ranges where magnum handguns and especially where rifles are being shot, they leave something to be desired, but I always go plugs and muffs, and problem solved.<br />
3. Large earmuffs would likely negate the need for plugs and muffs, but they might also hinder proper cheek weld when using a rifle on an indoor range. Plugs and muffs with Peltor Shotgunners with any caliber is more than sufficient in my experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Boyd Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Boyd Allen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2010 18:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You might want to read this.
http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/hhe/reports/pdfs/2002-0131-2898.pdf]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might want to read this.<br />
<a href="http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/hhe/reports/pdfs/2002-0131-2898.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/hhe/reports/pdfs/2002-0131-2898.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Editor</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2010 01:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Boyd, you raise a good point. However, if you are using some of the cheaper 21 db NRR rated muffs (the kind most clubs rent out) you will find that the Peltor Shotgunners are MUCH quieter in &quot;the real world&quot;. The reason is that they fit right and seal well.

I discussed &quot;real world vs. rated NRR&quot; with one of the engineers for E-A-R Hearing Products, (earplug and muff makers). He explained that the way most people use foam earplugs, they are probably only getting 18-20 db of reduction. The plugs need to go INTO the ear canal.

Likewise, if you have a set of 28 NRR muffs but they don&#039;t fit well, you will never achieve the rated noise reduction. I have personally found the Peltor Shotgunners to be significantly quieter than the popular H. Leight electronic ear muffs, with a 22 NRR (with the electronics OFF).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boyd, you raise a good point. However, if you are using some of the cheaper 21 db NRR rated muffs (the kind most clubs rent out) you will find that the Peltor Shotgunners are MUCH quieter in &#8220;the real world&#8221;. The reason is that they fit right and seal well.</p>
<p>I discussed &#8220;real world vs. rated NRR&#8221; with one of the engineers for E-A-R Hearing Products, (earplug and muff makers). He explained that the way most people use foam earplugs, they are probably only getting 18-20 db of reduction. The plugs need to go INTO the ear canal.</p>
<p>Likewise, if you have a set of 28 NRR muffs but they don&#8217;t fit well, you will never achieve the rated noise reduction. I have personally found the Peltor Shotgunners to be significantly quieter than the popular H. Leight electronic ear muffs, with a 22 NRR (with the electronics OFF).</p>
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		<title>By: Boyd Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Boyd Allen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2010 01:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[IMO even at an outdoor range, I think that, with muzzle brakes being common,  21DB is not enough protection. The reflection of blast off of a concrete floor, and the underside of a firing line cover intensifies the sound. 

Because of this, I use double coverage, combining the best foam plugs with some old low profile muffs that I am sure are no better than 21 DB. 

Hearing loss is cumulative. Just because a sound does not cause pain does not mean that it is not causing damage. 

The other issue is ringing of the ears, tinnitus. Trust me; you don&#039;t want to go there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMO even at an outdoor range, I think that, with muzzle brakes being common,  21DB is not enough protection. The reflection of blast off of a concrete floor, and the underside of a firing line cover intensifies the sound. </p>
<p>Because of this, I use double coverage, combining the best foam plugs with some old low profile muffs that I am sure are no better than 21 DB. </p>
<p>Hearing loss is cumulative. Just because a sound does not cause pain does not mean that it is not causing damage. </p>
<p>The other issue is ringing of the ears, tinnitus. Trust me; you don&#8217;t want to go there.</p>
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