Comments on: SEB MAX Coaxial Front Rest — Field Test by Sam Hall

By: seb

seb — Thu, 29 Nov 2012 03:53:07 +0000

Sam, thanks you for yours!
Hope to meet with you someday.
seb.

By: seb

seb — Thu, 29 Nov 2012 03:49:18 +0000

Lee, thanks for the kind words.

You are correct that in point blank BR you must be able to lift the rifle/stock straight up out of the front bag/rest.
Let me guess that your stocks have sharp edge on the sides w/ sectional cross ‘V’ up side down. The 3 pc bags configuration (will) only work for stocks with some ‘flat’ (or the ones with slight angle/curve) on the sides. For your stocks, the one pc bag will do the job better & it conforms the rules.

Re: Long leg set at the rear/shooter’s side & joystick’s travel.
Remember that the joystick is longer than the long leg when attached and that the joystick is bent/not straight.
That way you can twist the joystick to have a comfort hold & better control w/ the handle close to the bench top (not hanging in the air) – whether you shoot downhill or uphill. It is always better to have a stable base for your joystick hand, you can also make a finer adjustment that way.
A straight joystick can’t do that as good as your current/bent joystick. (But of course for that, the joystick must have some resistance to twist, not too easily rotate. — You can adjust the tightness/the resistance of the joystick with the set/jam screw on the bottom of the ‘front’ bearing).
I know 3 or 4 shooters that think a straight joystick would be better than the bent one, but until they know the benefits of the bent joystick & how to set the tightness.

Also check that your foreend stopper can be adjusted/tilted up & down by the small set screw on the pivotal joint – so it will work for various stocks/fore-ends.

Hope this help.
Let me know your finding about the base configuration in relation with the bent joystick.
Or consult with Mike Ratigan for any problems with your rest.
seb.

By: Samuel Hall

Samuel Hall — Thu, 29 Nov 2012 00:33:08 +0000

Lee & Seb,
In response to the legality, I forgot to mention: the side bags on the SEB MAX are made at an angle- fat at the bottom where it contacts the stock and narrower above that point at an angle away from the stock. I was able to pick up any stock straight up out of the bag with no problem, actually easier than any rest that I have ever tried. The new 3 piece SEB bags and his one piece bags are all built at an angle. I don’t have experience with SEB’s prior models. Samuel Hall

By: lee

lee — Wed, 28 Nov 2012 23:43:51 +0000

I did want to add one more detail. If there was anything i didnt like about my new Neo it would be the base. Unlike Sam’s base on the MAX the Neo’s base has a longer foot. “The center section of the rest” I wish my foot was shorter like the foot on the max. Now this wont be an issue for most, and here is why. With my shoot room, and how i am set up to shoot inside my shoot room, shooting out my window i have to have the foot facing me. The problem is the the joystick can make contact with the foot thus giving up just a little adjustment. I am like sam, as i like the joystick as far down and as close to the table as possible simply because you get better control from your hand resting on the table.Now I could turn the foot to face away from me, but I also have a counter weight on my rest and the donut can also hit the foot if you choose to face the foot towards the back. Now keep in mind this is mostly to do with my shootroom and how my range is laid out. My range is really flat and maybe even a slight bit down hill. So my rest isnt sitting very high off the base to begin with. I would assume that most wont have an issue such as this, so more than likely this is a none issue. However, i do like that shorter foot on the Max rest.
I also think that a straight joystick might be a nice option for some. Make no mistake these rest are freaking awesome. I feel very fortunate to own one and this rest will be with me for a very long time to come!!
Seb, Thank you sir for such a great product. Lee Gardner AKA skeetlee

By: lee

lee — Wed, 28 Nov 2012 23:04:28 +0000

I also just received my new Neo rest and i agree with Sam that these rest are un-equaled by any other rest out there. Smooth is the word of the day when dealing with these rest!!!
I will use my rest for short range BR mostly, so i am going to use the one piece bag. The 3 piece bag is excellent and i love how it forms to the stock, but i thought the rules for short range required that the stock be able to be liffted straight up out of the front bag to be legal, and with my 3 piece bag and my stocks, i cant lift my rifle straight up. Now maybe thats the rule or maybe i just heard wrong? Either way this rest is the best there is hands down!!!
Thanks for the video Sam!! Lee gardner AKA Skeetlee

By: Samuel Hall

Samuel Hall — Wed, 28 Nov 2012 19:33:11 +0000

Seb
BY my measurements with calipers, the SEB MAX conforms to IBS Long Range rules for competition (Page 29 article VII-L, A)7).

By: seb

seb — Wed, 28 Nov 2012 16:18:40 +0000

Hi Sam, glad that you like your new toy!
Great review & great shooting there.
Also glad that you tried shooting without holding the joystick – it means/says a lot about the mechanism.
Paul (Forum Boss) did a great job too. The write up covers almost all of the (technical) aspects of the rest.
Just one thing anyway….some people are wondering if the front bags are legal to use in IBS 1,000 yds or the Pennsylvania match. Can you confirm about it?
Thanks you & Best Wishes,
seb.