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		<title>By: Daniel Chisholm</title>
		<link>https://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2012/12/high-tech-target-system-score-shots-automatically/comment-page-1/#comment-6910</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Chisholm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, I am the Aschera agent for North America.  Last week I demo&#039;d the system to Roy and others at the Canadian national fullbore matches in Ottawa, which included inviting people to fire on it at 900m.

For iron sight shooting, all that is required is a black aiming circle of the correct diameter, since that&#039;s all that the shooter can see anyhow.  For scope shooting, an actual target face is needed, in order to give the shooter a high quality aiming point with rings to assist holding off etc.  Repair is not a big deal, in fact it is no worse than what we presently already do with manually operated targets - when the target is too shot-up visually, a new target centre is pasted on (actually since each hole is not being patched over, which can obscure the lines near the shot hole, replacement of the centre should be a bit less frequent)

While target face changes during a match are required, that can be a ten-second job if for each aiming mark you make up a piece of cardboard or corplast, and velcro it in place on your target board.  No calibration will be needed if each board is centred up (which is easy to do with great accuracy with just a few small witness marks).  We have the same &quot;problem&quot; today, which we solve quite practically - when installing a wear centre on the target, we need to put it reasonably close to the middle of the target.  It&#039;s pretty straightforward for anybody to align a wear centre very closely to exactly where it should go (alignment lines etc).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I am the Aschera agent for North America.  Last week I demo&#8217;d the system to Roy and others at the Canadian national fullbore matches in Ottawa, which included inviting people to fire on it at 900m.</p>
<p>For iron sight shooting, all that is required is a black aiming circle of the correct diameter, since that&#8217;s all that the shooter can see anyhow.  For scope shooting, an actual target face is needed, in order to give the shooter a high quality aiming point with rings to assist holding off etc.  Repair is not a big deal, in fact it is no worse than what we presently already do with manually operated targets &#8211; when the target is too shot-up visually, a new target centre is pasted on (actually since each hole is not being patched over, which can obscure the lines near the shot hole, replacement of the centre should be a bit less frequent)</p>
<p>While target face changes during a match are required, that can be a ten-second job if for each aiming mark you make up a piece of cardboard or corplast, and velcro it in place on your target board.  No calibration will be needed if each board is centred up (which is easy to do with great accuracy with just a few small witness marks).  We have the same &#8220;problem&#8221; today, which we solve quite practically &#8211; when installing a wear centre on the target, we need to put it reasonably close to the middle of the target.  It&#8217;s pretty straightforward for anybody to align a wear centre very closely to exactly where it should go (alignment lines etc).</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Chow</title>
		<link>https://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2012/12/high-tech-target-system-score-shots-automatically/comment-page-1/#comment-6843</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony Chow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To be more exact, the site is www.aschera.de, and the system&#039;s name is eSpot.  

This system is actually very close to a design I&#039;ve been envisioning: a rigid metallic beam on which all sensors are mounted, modularizing the system and reducing the cost.

Some problems are still not addressed though.  For F-Class and any-sight matches, the targets will need to be pasted up regularly, and if the center is damaged enough they would have to be refaced, necessitating another calibration.  The problem is even bigger for XTC matches, as yard-line and target changes cannot be performed quickly--the need to change the target face twice during the match means that you&#039;d have to recalibrate the target twice in the middle of the match.

For XTC matches, at least, this system is not yet practical.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be more exact, the site is <a href="http://www.aschera.de" rel="nofollow">http://www.aschera.de</a>, and the system&#8217;s name is eSpot.  </p>
<p>This system is actually very close to a design I&#8217;ve been envisioning: a rigid metallic beam on which all sensors are mounted, modularizing the system and reducing the cost.</p>
<p>Some problems are still not addressed though.  For F-Class and any-sight matches, the targets will need to be pasted up regularly, and if the center is damaged enough they would have to be refaced, necessitating another calibration.  The problem is even bigger for XTC matches, as yard-line and target changes cannot be performed quickly&#8211;the need to change the target face twice during the match means that you&#8217;d have to recalibrate the target twice in the middle of the match.</p>
<p>For XTC matches, at least, this system is not yet practical.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was wrong about the spelling of the company in the above post.

Go to ASCHERA Espot target systems at wwww.aschera.com to view the web page.

The unit can be set up in less than 15 minutes and is very user friendly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wrong about the spelling of the company in the above post.</p>
<p>Go to ASCHERA Espot target systems at wwww.aschera.com to view the web page.</p>
<p>The unit can be set up in less than 15 minutes and is very user friendly.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Area 52 range in Texas has Konsberg targets at 300m,600m,800m, and 1000m that are available to use. the range is set up with a common firing line so you could shoot at 300m and then simply walk down the firing line to shoot 1000m in less than a few minutes set up time. VERY NEAT

I have shot on a Sius Ascor wireless system at 600y. The system was about $15,000 ....or the user told me.

I have just returned from Canada where I was at a demonstration for the new ASCHERRIA (sp)system that was developed in Germany specifically for long range full bore shooting where portability and ease in set up were critical in the design of the wireless unit. A VERY HIGH TECH unit and very robust to withstand the rigors of high power shooting.See their website...cool stuff

Roy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Area 52 range in Texas has Konsberg targets at 300m,600m,800m, and 1000m that are available to use. the range is set up with a common firing line so you could shoot at 300m and then simply walk down the firing line to shoot 1000m in less than a few minutes set up time. VERY NEAT</p>
<p>I have shot on a Sius Ascor wireless system at 600y. The system was about $15,000 &#8230;.or the user told me.</p>
<p>I have just returned from Canada where I was at a demonstration for the new ASCHERRIA (sp)system that was developed in Germany specifically for long range full bore shooting where portability and ease in set up were critical in the design of the wireless unit. A VERY HIGH TECH unit and very robust to withstand the rigors of high power shooting.See their website&#8230;cool stuff</p>
<p>Roy</p>
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		<title>By: Rikky</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rikky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 00:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tony Chow has it.  The answer seems to be we put a target in front of the screen then select that style from the computer.  Fine when I shot with the military.

But with a 60x March I can see bullet holes way back now, and we destroy the centre of the target at the closer ranges which means the Butts are always replacing the centre.

How does an electronic system cope with this level of abuse?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony Chow has it.  The answer seems to be we put a target in front of the screen then select that style from the computer.  Fine when I shot with the military.</p>
<p>But with a 60x March I can see bullet holes way back now, and we destroy the centre of the target at the closer ranges which means the Butts are always replacing the centre.</p>
<p>How does an electronic system cope with this level of abuse?</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Chow</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony Chow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 02:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think what Rikki is asking about is the suitability for any-sight matches--either High Power or F-Class--where the shooter uses a high-magnification riflescope.  Since these targets don&#039;t have scoring rings on them, the shooters will have a hard time finding the target center with the cross-hair.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what Rikki is asking about is the suitability for any-sight matches&#8211;either High Power or F-Class&#8211;where the shooter uses a high-magnification riflescope.  Since these targets don&#8217;t have scoring rings on them, the shooters will have a hard time finding the target center with the cross-hair.</p>
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		<title>By: Aubrey Sonnenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aubrey Sonnenberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 21:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Quite a few of the full bore clubs in Australia have gone with this system, and it seems to be working well. Perth have all their clubs on the system and run 20 targets, and in Sydney we have an installation of about a dozen targets about to start. Exciting times for long range shooting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite a few of the full bore clubs in Australia have gone with this system, and it seems to be working well. Perth have all their clubs on the system and run 20 targets, and in Sydney we have an installation of about a dozen targets about to start. Exciting times for long range shooting.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Clark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 00:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This doesn&#039;t appear to be a &quot;stand-alone&quot; single-shooter system. What the product specs shows is an integrated system for multiple shooters as a permanently installed &amp; networked electronic scoring system.

i had the pleasure of shooting with a reserve National Guard shooter at Winnequah Gun Club last year. He had a Very Cool and QUITE PORTABLE electronic scoring device - courtesy of your and my tax dollars - that he was using for unaccompanied 600 yard practice that day.

He brought it with him, he took it home when he was done.

He&#039;d kindly invited me to put some rounds on his target, which I declined to do once he&#039;d told me the quoted price for one of these systems was in the neighborhood of $35,000.

Each.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This doesn&#8217;t appear to be a &#8220;stand-alone&#8221; single-shooter system. What the product specs shows is an integrated system for multiple shooters as a permanently installed &amp; networked electronic scoring system.</p>
<p>i had the pleasure of shooting with a reserve National Guard shooter at Winnequah Gun Club last year. He had a Very Cool and QUITE PORTABLE electronic scoring device &#8211; courtesy of your and my tax dollars &#8211; that he was using for unaccompanied 600 yard practice that day.</p>
<p>He brought it with him, he took it home when he was done.</p>
<p>He&#8217;d kindly invited me to put some rounds on his target, which I declined to do once he&#8217;d told me the quoted price for one of these systems was in the neighborhood of $35,000.</p>
<p>Each.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Rikky:
The target works regardless of sights or range. You can put any type of target figure in front of the system (animal, silhuette, traditional target etc).

They are pricey ( a lot of the money is in the monitor, but you can use a pc instead), but if you remove the cost of all the spotting scopes...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rikky:<br />
The target works regardless of sights or range. You can put any type of target figure in front of the system (animal, silhuette, traditional target etc).</p>
<p>They are pricey ( a lot of the money is in the monitor, but you can use a pc instead), but if you remove the cost of all the spotting scopes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Hames</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian Hames]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 04:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[impressive shooting!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>impressive shooting!!</p>
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