Comments on: USA Shooting 300M National Championships Held at Fort Benning

By: Martin Scrivens

Martin Scrivens — Sun, 16 Oct 2016 16:07:09 +0000

I have Grunig & Elmiger 300m and 0.22 Racers and BAT 3LL f open rifles by Dolphin Gun Co.

All are manufactured on cnc machinery and very high quality…and brOadby comparable cost once imported into the UK

F class rifles have the additional cost of a decent scope z that is countered by the cost of an issf stock in 300m

By: Kyle

Kyle — Fri, 13 Sep 2013 19:46:46 +0000

Can you post the scores? This is the only information that I have been able to find on the match

By: Mr. T

Mr. T — Wed, 04 Sep 2013 09:56:36 +0000

Yes G+E costs a lot of $$$ but its the same for us buying US made stuff.
Let me illustrate in the article above SS offers a F class rifle for 3800$ that is a fair price but if you import it into Europe you are looking at roughly 5500$(0% profit margin) and f class rifles are cheaper, 300m or 3p rifle stock costs a lot more .So its great that stocks are fully compatible for both 3p rimfire and 300m rifle actions so in many cases we are buying just barreled actions.

As for gun culture Swiss are the worlds no.1 gun country, most gun owners shoot competitions and on lower levels military even provides ammo and well equipped(electronic scoring) shooting ranges to do so, all with the goal of having a conscript army that knows how to handle their guns.

By: Tony Chow

Tony Chow — Tue, 03 Sep 2013 23:05:15 +0000

Mr. T is correct in saying that G+E, Bleiker, and Tanner are all “serially produced” rifles. You can either buy them “off the rack” from retailers, or exercise a limited number of customization options directly with the manufacturer. These are, strictly speaking, “factory rifles”, though very high-end ones.

By contrast, Most American match-grade firearms are one-off custom builds, often with custom-machined parts.

This is partly a reflection of the differences of two shooting cultures. In Europe, especially in Germanic countries, competitive shooters comprise a much greater percentage of gun owners than they do in the United States. The larger European market for match-quality arms supports a larger industry dedicated to its needs.

Comparisons between European and American gun cultures is a fascinating subject, one that we hope to explore further in these pages.

By: Tony Chow

Tony Chow — Tue, 03 Sep 2013 22:46:10 +0000

I apologize if the article gave the impression that we are disparaging European rifles in favor of American ones. Our intent is not to start a Euro-v-US argument, and we call on our readers to refrain from feeding what appears to be an incipient flame war.

Rather, our intent is to simply show that the cost of entry to 300m shooting isn’t as high as the preponderance of $6000+ rifles on the line would suggest, and that American shooters can take advantage of the lower costs of their native precision shooting industry to compete at the world level.

By: Guy

Guy — Tue, 03 Sep 2013 22:04:25 +0000

A Gruenig & Elmiger 300 meter rifle starts at about 5k US.

By: Marc

Marc — Tue, 03 Sep 2013 21:36:27 +0000

Mr. T, “off the shelf” or “custom” says nothing about price or quality.

By: Mr. T

Mr. T — Tue, 03 Sep 2013 21:15:28 +0000

I do not doubt US guns are competitive but unlike even G&E which is serially manufactured they are all custom builds,playing the under dog card on basis of budget US built rifles is funny to say the least.

But anyway great to see some interest for 300m shooting in US. Its quite sad that 300m is obscure even in most of Europe that is why swiss guns dominate as they are just about the only mayor European nation that is keeping the 300m alive and well.

By: Tony Chow

Tony Chow — Tue, 03 Sep 2013 18:20:59 +0000

‘Ignorance at its best.300m rifles are off the shelf items in Europe not custom builds and most cost less than US built rifles.”

While “budget” standard rifles exist, the top tier of 300m competition is dominated by G+E, Bleiker, and Tanner. Some Keppelers can also be seen on the line. A case in point is the recently concluded European Championships. Those interested can go over to ech2013.com and take a look at the picture galleries.

The point that we are trying to make is that American guns can be competitive, not just for beginners, but at the highest level of the discipline.

By: Guy

Guy — Tue, 03 Sep 2013 14:12:02 +0000

Very good artical,interesting read.