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	<title>Comments on: Are You Spinning Your Bullets Fast Enough? Twist Rate Calculator Predicts Gyroscopic Stability</title>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
		<link>https://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2014/05/are-you-spinning-your-bullets-fast-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-44825</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2014 13:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the update Bryan. Just put a Broughton 5C on my palma rifle, 13 twist but will try a 12 twist next time around, shooting the newer Sierra 155 with higher BC and Berger 155`s.  Looking forward to the summer test results. GG]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the update Bryan. Just put a Broughton 5C on my palma rifle, 13 twist but will try a 12 twist next time around, shooting the newer Sierra 155 with higher BC and Berger 155`s.  Looking forward to the summer test results. GG</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Litz</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2014 16:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039;re learning a lot about twist rates, stability and BC thru recent testing.  Something I can share is that bullets can shoot &#039;just fine&#039; in a twist that produces marginal stability (SG of 1.1 to 1.5), meaning good groups.  However, you might be leaving some BC on the table with these marginal twist rates.

In the old days, with the old breed of 155&#039;s which were shorter and blunter, the 1:13&quot; twist was plenty.  However, with the new breed of 155&#039;s being longer, they are certainly more comfortable in a 1:12&quot; or faster.  By &#039;more comfortable&#039; I mean potentially better BC&#039;s, especially in high density air (cold and near sea level).

As for over-spinning bullets, the downsides to this are not as bad as many fear.  If the bullets are poorly balanced, then you might see some added dispersion due to the imbalance, but most bullets made these days are very well balanced.  Another potential downside is bullet failure, but this is more of a problem for the long heavy bullets which already require somewhat radical twist rates: 6mm 115&#039;s for example going from a 1:7&quot; to 1:6&quot; might cross the line.

In summary, there are benefits to spinning bullets faster than previously thought (SG of 1.4), and the downsides of &#039;over spinning&#039; bullets are not as bad as many think.  The specific test results are planned for publication later this summer.

-Bryan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re learning a lot about twist rates, stability and BC thru recent testing.  Something I can share is that bullets can shoot &#8216;just fine&#8217; in a twist that produces marginal stability (SG of 1.1 to 1.5), meaning good groups.  However, you might be leaving some BC on the table with these marginal twist rates.</p>
<p>In the old days, with the old breed of 155&#8217;s which were shorter and blunter, the 1:13&#8243; twist was plenty.  However, with the new breed of 155&#8217;s being longer, they are certainly more comfortable in a 1:12&#8243; or faster.  By &#8216;more comfortable&#8217; I mean potentially better BC&#8217;s, especially in high density air (cold and near sea level).</p>
<p>As for over-spinning bullets, the downsides to this are not as bad as many fear.  If the bullets are poorly balanced, then you might see some added dispersion due to the imbalance, but most bullets made these days are very well balanced.  Another potential downside is bullet failure, but this is more of a problem for the long heavy bullets which already require somewhat radical twist rates: 6mm 115&#8217;s for example going from a 1:7&#8243; to 1:6&#8243; might cross the line.</p>
<p>In summary, there are benefits to spinning bullets faster than previously thought (SG of 1.4), and the downsides of &#8216;over spinning&#8217; bullets are not as bad as many think.  The specific test results are planned for publication later this summer.</p>
<p>-Bryan</p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
		<link>https://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2014/05/are-you-spinning-your-bullets-fast-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-44814</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2014 19:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With a 1.42 and Berger recommending a 1.50 or higher and Bryan Litz recommends at least a 1.4 SG looks on the edge to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With a 1.42 and Berger recommending a 1.50 or higher and Bryan Litz recommends at least a 1.4 SG looks on the edge to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikecr</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2014 17:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, it shows stability at 1.42 at 59deg and sea level. This is not on any &#039;edge&#039;.

Folks should keep in mind though that this Miller stability calc is a rule of thumb only, so there are assumptions and it&#039;s limited in application. 
For example, it can&#039;t account for a change in meplat diameters, plastic tips, nose shapes, or base shapes(flat/boat tail), etc.
That&#039;s not to say it isn&#039;t useful, rules of thumb are easier(like Greenhill). But you need to consider their limitations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it shows stability at 1.42 at 59deg and sea level. This is not on any &#8216;edge&#8217;.</p>
<p>Folks should keep in mind though that this Miller stability calc is a rule of thumb only, so there are assumptions and it&#8217;s limited in application.<br />
For example, it can&#8217;t account for a change in meplat diameters, plastic tips, nose shapes, or base shapes(flat/boat tail), etc.<br />
That&#8217;s not to say it isn&#8217;t useful, rules of thumb are easier(like Greenhill). But you need to consider their limitations.</p>
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		<title>By: Minesweeper3433</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Minesweeper3433]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2014 16:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At what number is the stability factor to high?  Is there a point that you can say no that is far to fast of a twist?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At what number is the stability factor to high?  Is there a point that you can say no that is far to fast of a twist?</p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2014 16:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This shows the 155 right on the edge but ive seen dozens of these barrels handle the 155 without issue as the 13 twist is the favored twist by far with the 155.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This shows the 155 right on the edge but ive seen dozens of these barrels handle the 155 without issue as the 13 twist is the favored twist by far with the 155.</p>
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