Comments on: Man vs. Machine — Comparative Rifle Accuracy at 600 Yards

By: CIB 1970

CIB 1970 — Mon, 26 Jun 2023 17:52:33 +0000

Lets see ten 20 shot groups on the same range, same day. I think the result will be far different. The Machine rest will do this repeatedly in a uniform condition. The shooter? Nope.
Now a service rifle with GOOD load with a GOOD barrel will shoot at 1 MOA or less at 600 and beyond. Both these groups are about 1 MOA or.a little less. The X ring is 6” after all. This is a GREAT score with irons its fantastic. I shot a 10 shot string clean in a service rifle match Sunday but. Low x count. But I dropped 4 in the last 10 shots. Yeah 4.5 power scope. Heavy bullet, single loaded, powder weighed to < than .1 grain. And I am in my 70s and don’t have the resources that the military teams have in training, equipment and ammo. I can’t test my ammo in a machine rest.

By: Guy

Guy — Thu, 09 Jul 2015 19:59:10 +0000

There no doubt a properly done AR can shoot X`s all day and im not surprised the AMU shooter near mirrored the results from the rest.

As far as getting their load,,,haha, not going to happen.

By: jj

jj — Thu, 09 Jul 2015 05:16:50 +0000

This is nonsense. A stock m16 with military issued ammo cannot shoot this sized group at 600 yards… bull.

Editor: That’s a tuned and accurized M16 with USAMU premium hand-loaded ammo (as the card states on the target). And, yes a human did in fact shot that bottom group. This was shot, scored, recorded and witnessed in competition and the target was preserved by the USAMU. Is it out of the ordinary? Of course. That’s why it was a National Record!

By: Steve

Steve — Thu, 18 Dec 2014 20:49:32 +0000

I wish the article gave more facts about the AMU ammunition. What bullet was used, what powder, how much?

By: NJW in AZ

NJW in AZ — Thu, 18 Dec 2014 14:55:51 +0000

As I say when people question my use of a Ransom Rest. Sure a person may be able to outshoot it but could a person outshoot it 24/7. Before I got it I used to test my ammo by hand and that is when you realize the focus and concentration you need and how it fatigues you. Mechanical rests don’t get tired or lose focus.

By: Richard

Richard — Thu, 18 Dec 2014 12:44:34 +0000

Obviously, it’s possible….. isn’t it?

By: Slim

Slim — Thu, 18 Dec 2014 11:45:28 +0000

This test was very unscientific. Test were done on different ranges,dates,conditions.

Editor: Nobody is claiming this was a simultaneous side-by-side test. But it is interesting to see that a human has come very close to machine rest performance, using just iron sights and sling. It is likewise interesting to note that it did take a “super-human” National Record-level performance to get close to the machine rest….

By: Monte Milanuk

Monte Milanuk — Thu, 18 Dec 2014 02:45:42 +0000

One group from a machine rest vs. one group from a shooter. Not really enough data to do any kind of meaningful comparison. But since its the Internet, what the heck.