Comments on: Why Shoot a 300 Blackout? Kirsten Provides Some Answers

By: Neil

Neil — Tue, 18 Oct 2016 13:18:51 +0000

So can you shoot .308 bullets in the 300 Blackout? I have hand loads of Win .308s i shoot in my T/C Prohunter

By: John

John — Sat, 14 Feb 2015 14:53:52 +0000

“Um, no. They used 1/10 twist which everyone (but them) knows would not make subsonic stable. Savage just didn’t have the knowledge to design the rifle properly.”
Savage tried several twist rates, bbl lengths and bullet weights before determining that the inherent accuracy of the round was not up to their standards.
For you to say that Savage “didn’t have the knowledge to design the rifle properly” is stunningly ignorant.

By: Robert Whitley

Robert Whitley — Thu, 05 Feb 2015 02:46:58 +0000

My Quote:

“and trying to run both ways (i.e. both supersonic and subsonic) with the same gas porting has it’s own set of issues (i.e. you have to port it for subsonic use and then if you don’t have things set up to throttle back the excess gas and you shoot supersonic ammo the action cycles way hard because it’s over ported). ”

Johnson’s reply:

“That is just not true. It is in spec with one gas port size because the subsonic is double the projectile mass and so produces close to the same amount of gas even at the lower velocity.”

My reply:
Hmm – – Interesting theory but I would not exactly say it proves out like that in real life.

By: Johnson

Johnson — Wed, 04 Feb 2015 01:22:21 +0000

“What about the 7.62×40-WT cartridge developed by Wilson Combat? It is just as easy to convert any AR-15 with just a barrel change.”

That is not a SAAMI standard, only one company makes it, it is only about 70 fps faster, and it gives up compatibility with normal 5.56mm magazines.

By: Johnson

Johnson — Wed, 04 Feb 2015 01:21:36 +0000

That is just not true. It is in spec with one gas port size because the subsonic is double the projectile mass and so produces close to the same amount of gas even at the lower velocity.

By: Johnson

Johnson — Wed, 04 Feb 2015 01:19:58 +0000

” This is not a accurate round that’s why Savage said they drop the clambering from thier lineup. Savage didn’t want to explain to there customers why the gun was so inaccurate.”

Um, no. They used 1/10 twist which everyone (but them) knows would not make subsonic stable. Savage just didn’t have the knowledge to design the rifle properly.

By: Richard

Richard — Sat, 31 Jan 2015 20:38:56 +0000

By “hammers” it puts sensible big holes in furry things at sensible hunting ranges using sensible amounts of powder. The advertising, but note so the internet, hype has seen a polarising of the commentary; as has the division of support between WTF fans and those keen on the PPC variants.

I don’t care either way. As an early adopter, I have used it hard and it works for me!

By: Guy

Guy — Sat, 31 Jan 2015 13:51:03 +0000

I guess if .30 is required to shoot a particular match it might be something. Looks useless otherwise. I see no use for it in a real HP match.

By: steve

steve — Sat, 31 Jan 2015 11:57:27 +0000

I’m not quite following the thought of subsonic vs larger 308 calibers shooting subsonic.
subsonic is subsonic.
I have a 300 black out with a Wilson combat 1 in 8 twist barrel, standard gas block and just a standard mil spec bushmaster AR. I built the upper from brownells 49.99 upper specials they were running last year. I can just swap uppers if I want to go back and forth on it, no tuning required.
it shoots both sub sonic 208 grain hornadys very well, right at 1 moa sometimes better, although its trajectory is like a rock being thrown I will give you that, but the lighter supersonic rounds is very accurate (not bench rest accurate, but for hunting applications its just as accurate as most standard off the shelf hunting rifles)both suppressed or unsuppressed.
I just use mine for hogs, I cut my own brass out of range brass or blanks. 208 grain amax through the skull of a hog drops them every time.

By: Slim

Slim — Sat, 31 Jan 2015 01:34:46 +0000

Robert is spot on. This is not a accurate round that’s why Savage said they drop the clambering from thier lineup. Savage didn’t want to explain to there customers why the gun was so inaccurate.