Comments on: New Ultra-High-BC, Solid Bullets from Warner Tool Company

By: Randy Willman

Randy Willman — Tue, 31 Jan 2017 02:05:21 +0000

tried reloading these new 160 gr bullets. Used 4 types of powder per recommendation from Warner. CFE223, Accurate 2460, 2000MR, and H4895 all very POOR Results except 2000MR just under 1 MOA at 100yds. Also first shot group with Berger .5 MOA, then POI after shooting 4//5 shot groups dropped my POI on the Berger 168 x 19 inches. WHAT UP with that?

By: Greg Hardin

Greg Hardin — Sat, 14 Jan 2017 00:15:26 +0000

What kind of B.C. could you get out of a 100 gr 6.8 spcII from a 1 in 11.25 inch twist. It would need to be banded with something to reduce friction and something the semi’s could grab well. Or no movement ( cannelure)

By: Just1Spark

Just1Spark — Tue, 11 Aug 2015 12:41:33 +0000

Times are changin.
With the ever increasing affordability of cnc technology, jacketed bullets will start to get crowded out of the market (though never completely).

This is just the beginning.
The prices will come down, when the market becomes saturated.

The market will become saturated when solids start to perform.

They will start to perform when the right combination of design and application are applied.

This may be the design.

Who will apply them?

By: What not again

What not again — Sun, 02 Aug 2015 22:01:56 +0000

If these are worthy they will be used to win all shooting championships around the world and all the records will soon be held by these Flat liners.
Especially Targets fired at 600M and beyond.
Unless they are like Three other extremely low drag swiss screw machine produced copper machined projectile companies who well produced items that looked good initially across chronographs. Then when it came time to produce groups at range with reliable consistency.
They failed and as always never out perform the reliability of Berger, Sierra, JLK, Lapua numerous others have tried this machined process good luck with your flat liners- Sounds like a dead idea to me . Will look good for pictures and show on internet but not for winning rifle matches. Prove us wrong Warner.

By: Joe

Joe — Sun, 02 Aug 2015 00:42:36 +0000

Well if the 30 cals cost that much then the 6mm 105s should fall somewhere around 32.00 a box ?

By: David Joe

David Joe — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 15:19:54 +0000

Those points certainly look the part and lathe turned bullets should have the most consistent tips possible. Retained velocity at 1,000 yards of the less dense bullet must have been very good to support the claimed BC, but I hope to read test results confirming this on the site. Higher velocity at the muzzle for equal weight bullets suggests the bullet is less hampered by barrel bearing friction, too, possibly better for barrel life.

By: ELR Researcher

ELR Researcher — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 14:27:44 +0000

Richard:

You are quite correct that I have never owned their dies. At one point I tried to engage with them for some dies and all I can say is they virtually demanded that I turn my request into a full-blown research project, totally open-wallet.

That noted, I have a box of their .338s on order and look forward to testing them.

In my experience, in the mid-to-long term, premium products live or die based on their performance and that of competing products.

I’m willing to suffer a 35% premium at least once. For me, the question is whether I find enough “advantage” to make purchasing a second and subsequent boxes worth the money.

By: Richard

Richard — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 11:10:47 +0000

Those having REAL experience with the Warners realize they can put full confidence in what Al/Dan says. It’s quite obvious, ELR, you don’t own, and have never used one of the WTC dies! The quality of materials used, tolerances, machine work and craftsmanship= money.

By: DH

DH — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 05:13:58 +0000

At such time as someone can point to national records or national event wins under fugly conditions, my wallet will not open.

By: f-class shooter

f-class shooter — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 03:47:03 +0000

These aren’t something you just try out without specifically throating a barrel for them. They are much longer and will require a faster twist to stabilize. I suppose you could shoot the the 155s in a 308 setup for 215/230s, but the entire concept is futile considering the 155s have a lower bc than the 200s.

Who knows? Maybe the price will drop to sane amount eventually and they will become a viable option.