Comments on: CMP Issues Proposed Rule Changes for 2016

By: Michael C

Michael C — Wed, 18 Nov 2015 16:56:10 +0000

A scope will not make a rifle a laser. A 4X scope will not give that great advantage to a shooter. For me the biggest advantage will be to see the target number! Old eyes. I swear those target numbers at Perry didn’t used to be so close together. Marksmanship skills will still be needed and scope shadow will cost some scopey’s points if they don’t perceive it.

By: Griff Murphey

Griff Murphey — Mon, 26 Oct 2015 02:12:50 +0000

I’m kind of an old washed up service rifle shooter, but I still play with CMP shoots and try to keep limber enough to shoot position. I had a lot of trouble seeing the front sight from my late 30’s til about age 60 and weirdly enough can see the post pretty well, uncorrected. If you are nearsighted it might happen for you. But I akso shoot some three gun, and good old scopes are pretty necessary on field targets. I think this reflects modern military reality and is a good idea.

By: Guy

Guy — Sun, 25 Oct 2015 12:57:49 +0000

Charlie, The new rules still [keep] the service rifle AR far from a match rifle.

By: Charlie

Charlie — Sat, 24 Oct 2015 18:55:49 +0000

@Shane @Mike Agreed that there is a lack of guidelines about the external features of the new SR spec. As proposed, it sounds like you’d basically be able to shoot a spacegun in SR as long as the barrel is shortened to 20″. Why not make a new division within Match Rifle that allows optics? Or even just roll the optics into Match Rifle as is.

By: Guy

Guy — Sat, 24 Oct 2015 15:27:17 +0000

The scope is no gimmie. Virtually all 4X power type scopes have fixed parallax at either 75 or 100 yards. That’s a issue. Theres the repeatability thing and basic adjustments to deal with on the little scope at longer ranges. Your also limited to 11.5 lb. total rifle weight. So its much different then just saying scope or irons. Those with good eyes will likely give nothing up to the scope shooters. Those that gave up service rifle because of the eyes can now get back in.

By: sam s

sam s — Sat, 24 Oct 2015 02:52:59 +0000

It’s about time. It needs to carry thru with all rifle competition in my opinion A good set of long range irons will set you back the same money as a good scope.The sport seems to be dying so to speak. Very few sling shooters at matches mostly f class.

By: Jonathan Zimmerman

Jonathan Zimmerman — Sat, 24 Oct 2015 02:05:49 +0000

I understand the desire to add scoped rifles for use in service rifle competition. But, there is no way they should be in the same class as iron sight rifles. I cannot think of another competition where this is allowed, including CMP Sporter matches. I firmly believe a separate class needs formed for scoped rifles. This is my own opinion, I may be on my own here. Jonathan

By: Mike

Mike — Sat, 24 Oct 2015 01:59:41 +0000

So I take it any handguard will be allowed. It also did not specify a fixed sling position so now service rifles can have a slotted rail. We will see extended gas systems as well I would imagine…

By: Shane

Shane — Sat, 24 Oct 2015 00:44:20 +0000

I think this might be messy if there is not a lot more clarity. So, a flat-top with or without a front post sight is now legal or only with a front post sight……or does the scope need to be attached to the handguard….

This will keep older eyes in SR longer, which is probably a good thing.

By: Guy

Guy — Fri, 23 Oct 2015 23:09:20 +0000

CMP is trying to get more realistic with a actual service rifle weight, down from the 15, 18, 20 lb. weight ARs many use.