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	<title>Comments on: New 1-4.5x24mm Scope with ED Glass from March</title>
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		<title>By: Sonny gunpowder Hayes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sonny gunpowder Hayes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2017 06:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure sounds neg on the cost and i agree. I am afraid that all the kids will think there is no need for iron sights and think of only optics. Got my kids up and shooting on their own but i got 3 grandsons now who will have iron sights to start and their scores may get them some glass. I got my 2 distinguished badges but with my age i am thinking about glass but not for more than a rifle cost or carts and coats.I am afraid many beginners want start from sticker shock to them and their parents. They can only cut so much grass and bail so much hay.Much like the CMP pricing the Garands out of the market for just a shooter.But like the scope people they will come between you and your funds.I wonder if they have had any police reports of kids being caught stealing or robbing not to buy drugs but to buy a CMP legal scope?Sure hope not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure sounds neg on the cost and i agree. I am afraid that all the kids will think there is no need for iron sights and think of only optics. Got my kids up and shooting on their own but i got 3 grandsons now who will have iron sights to start and their scores may get them some glass. I got my 2 distinguished badges but with my age i am thinking about glass but not for more than a rifle cost or carts and coats.I am afraid many beginners want start from sticker shock to them and their parents. They can only cut so much grass and bail so much hay.Much like the CMP pricing the Garands out of the market for just a shooter.But like the scope people they will come between you and your funds.I wonder if they have had any police reports of kids being caught stealing or robbing not to buy drugs but to buy a CMP legal scope?Sure hope not.</p>
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		<title>By: Marchi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marchi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2017 21:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry about my late answer.By now you must know that the lenses are not ED quality. White oak took that out of their advertisement.Bullet.com will follow and the march company is going to do the same. The Japanese company who make this lenses said that due to the side of this format 1-4.5x24, the scopes don&#039;t show improvement in visual quality...so is not needed. I may question that but that&#039;s what they said at this moment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about my late answer.By now you must know that the lenses are not ED quality. White oak took that out of their advertisement.Bullet.com will follow and the march company is going to do the same. The Japanese company who make this lenses said that due to the side of this format 1-4.5&#215;24, the scopes don&#8217;t show improvement in visual quality&#8230;so is not needed. I may question that but that&#8217;s what they said at this moment.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2017 10:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marchi - what on Earth are you talking about?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marchi &#8211; what on Earth are you talking about?</p>
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		<title>By: Marchi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marchi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2017 14:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Instruction book said this scope don&#039;t have ED  LENSES. LOOK AT PAGE 12 ON TOP
THE OWNERS MANUAL IS MADE BY THE MANUFACTURER OF THE SCOPE, DEON OPTICAL DESIGN CORP from Japan.
Is nothing on scope or box that said ED LENSES. THE SERIAL NO. OF MY SCOPE IS X179, Model D4.5v24ti, MAR 1087,1X-4.5X24, I&#039;m returning the scope to WO if this is true.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instruction book said this scope don&#8217;t have ED  LENSES. LOOK AT PAGE 12 ON TOP<br />
THE OWNERS MANUAL IS MADE BY THE MANUFACTURER OF THE SCOPE, DEON OPTICAL DESIGN CORP from Japan.<br />
Is nothing on scope or box that said ED LENSES. THE SERIAL NO. OF MY SCOPE IS X179, Model D4.5v24ti, MAR 1087,1X-4.5X24, I&#8217;m returning the scope to WO if this is true.</p>
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		<title>By: Shiraz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shiraz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2016 14:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes and yes!

Yes, the scopes are double checked for tracking. Yes we have a service center in USA. The scopes are looked at the day they arrive. here is a post I did on the forum:

http://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/march-10-60-x-52-vs-nightforce-15-x-55-competition.3892314/

Post number 17. Currently the last one on the page.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes and yes!</p>
<p>Yes, the scopes are double checked for tracking. Yes we have a service center in USA. The scopes are looked at the day they arrive. here is a post I did on the forum:</p>
<p><a href="http://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/march-10-60-x-52-vs-nightforce-15-x-55-competition.3892314/" rel="nofollow">http://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/march-10-60-x-52-vs-nightforce-15-x-55-competition.3892314/</a></p>
<p>Post number 17. Currently the last one on the page.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2016 13:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My first issues would be (beyond cost), where is the scope repaired at, what is the turnaround time and turnaround cost? Is there a repair facility in the US?

Have anyone performed a box test with the scope to verify that it tracks/repeats as well as the pinned irons that exist today?

Seeing that many of us got our shields in 94/95 when the AR&#039;s first hit the range (before pinned sights existed) and how dominant they have consistently been with irons...how much advantage will this scope give on an ultra-competitive rifle that costs well under $2000?

Hopefully, CMP/NRA will track the success that the rules change has on overall participation. I have my doubts that it will change to any appreciable degree. It will also be interesting to see a list of equipment used in CMP LEG matches, to quantify how well the optics have penetrated the game as well as how they have fared in scoring.

If a person has the desire to shoot optics, I say go for it. As well, those that have deep enough pockets to drop the coin on one of these March scopes, more power to them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first issues would be (beyond cost), where is the scope repaired at, what is the turnaround time and turnaround cost? Is there a repair facility in the US?</p>
<p>Have anyone performed a box test with the scope to verify that it tracks/repeats as well as the pinned irons that exist today?</p>
<p>Seeing that many of us got our shields in 94/95 when the AR&#8217;s first hit the range (before pinned sights existed) and how dominant they have consistently been with irons&#8230;how much advantage will this scope give on an ultra-competitive rifle that costs well under $2000?</p>
<p>Hopefully, CMP/NRA will track the success that the rules change has on overall participation. I have my doubts that it will change to any appreciable degree. It will also be interesting to see a list of equipment used in CMP LEG matches, to quantify how well the optics have penetrated the game as well as how they have fared in scoring.</p>
<p>If a person has the desire to shoot optics, I say go for it. As well, those that have deep enough pockets to drop the coin on one of these March scopes, more power to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2016 23:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looks to me that the 1/2 MOA dot will fit inside the X ring at all the ranges.  Good enough for me but let&#039;s see how the results go this summer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks to me that the 1/2 MOA dot will fit inside the X ring at all the ranges.  Good enough for me but let&#8217;s see how the results go this summer.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2016 23:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Im very positive on optic service rifle, mines all ready to go. Most are not worrying about the extra .5X and going with the leupold 1.5-4X 20mm or the fixed 4X. I dont see one picking up extra points with this scope and I wouldnt want a 1/2 minute dot. Its a 3 gun scope being marketed as a XTC scope. And way out of a reasonable price range for service rifle. The  parallax adjustment is nice. Be interesting  to see how it plays out over the summer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im very positive on optic service rifle, mines all ready to go. Most are not worrying about the extra .5X and going with the leupold 1.5-4X 20mm or the fixed 4X. I dont see one picking up extra points with this scope and I wouldnt want a 1/2 minute dot. Its a 3 gun scope being marketed as a XTC scope. And way out of a reasonable price range for service rifle. The  parallax adjustment is nice. Be interesting  to see how it plays out over the summer.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2016 22:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Im not negative on the optics for SR, my new optic SR is all together and ready to go. Should be exciting. Many coming back in the game when their eyes took them out prior. I personally would not want a 1/2 minute dot for one. The most popular scope right now is the Leupold 1.5-4X 20mm. Second by the fixed 4X-33mm. This scope is out of the price range for service rifle. I dont believe it will improve scores versus the two scopes mentioned above. As long as its repeatable, you can see the target, see the crosshair, the rest is up to the shooter. This is a 3-gun scope being marketed as a XTC option. The  parallax adjustment is a plus.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im not negative on the optics for SR, my new optic SR is all together and ready to go. Should be exciting. Many coming back in the game when their eyes took them out prior. I personally would not want a 1/2 minute dot for one. The most popular scope right now is the Leupold 1.5-4X 20mm. Second by the fixed 4X-33mm. This scope is out of the price range for service rifle. I dont believe it will improve scores versus the two scopes mentioned above. As long as its repeatable, you can see the target, see the crosshair, the rest is up to the shooter. This is a 3-gun scope being marketed as a XTC option. The  parallax adjustment is a plus.</p>
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		<title>By: Shiraz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shiraz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2016 22:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The speed lever can be removed in less than a second. However, it was specifically asked for by one of the top Service Rifle shooters in the country we consulted with. 

I suspect that this scope will be picked up by 3 gun shooters as well as hunters, so that&#039;s an added bonus!

Richard - there are always naysayers when new things come out. What I cannot understand is how some guys make judgement calls without laying their hands on the scope.

By the way, one of the top service rifle teams will be using these scopes at the Nationals. We will see how they perform then.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The speed lever can be removed in less than a second. However, it was specifically asked for by one of the top Service Rifle shooters in the country we consulted with. </p>
<p>I suspect that this scope will be picked up by 3 gun shooters as well as hunters, so that&#8217;s an added bonus!</p>
<p>Richard &#8211; there are always naysayers when new things come out. What I cannot understand is how some guys make judgement calls without laying their hands on the scope.</p>
<p>By the way, one of the top service rifle teams will be using these scopes at the Nationals. We will see how they perform then.</p>
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