Comments on: NEW PRODUCT: “Neuvo” Precision Action from BAT Machine

By: chevytruck_83

chevytruck_83 — Wed, 02 Mar 2016 14:25:33 +0000

Thanks for the clarification boyd. I’m not a gunsmith. Just a semi newbie trying to learn as much as I can. I would have thought both lugs on a traditional action would have full contact cocked.

By: Paul

Paul — Wed, 02 Mar 2016 04:26:27 +0000

Boyd,

Great job stating the blatenly obvious.

Paul

By: Grimstod

Grimstod — Wed, 02 Mar 2016 02:12:02 +0000

Yes and these are the problems that a horisontal lock solves. When i brought it up two years ago people laughed.

By: Boyd Allen

Boyd Allen — Wed, 02 Mar 2016 00:04:08 +0000

This is a fat bolt action, like a Hall, the difference being the position of the lugs when the action is locked up. Having the lugs horizontal when the action is locked means that both lugs will be in contact when the action is cocked. Two lug actions, with fixed bolt heads, that lock with their lugs in vertical position only have the bottom lug in contact, at its outer end while the actions are cocked. This is one of the main reasons that builders of benchrest grade actions of that type pay so much attention to bolt to body clearance, to minimize this effect. It also helps to keep cocking pieces aligned so that they will not catch and scrape as they fall.

By: ELR Researcher

ELR Researcher — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 23:39:23 +0000

“The new action includes a wide-body, two-lug bolt, horizontal locking lugs…”

Other BATs are 2-lug, horizontally locking. What constitutes “wide body” – presumably the semi-flattened bottom (appears that way from the one pic)? Mounting that shape is better than pure round or dead-flat shape?

“full-diameter two-lug” – Barnard has been, as best I know, full-diameter since the beginning – http://www.barnard.co.nz/model-p-action.htm – but they are 3-lug (with the associated advantages – like the 3-lug BATs have).

Very frustrating. Claims and zero data.

By: ELR Researcher

ELR Researcher — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 23:25:29 +0000

Seems a becoming-standard thing to announce a new product and provide virtually zip info. Nothing on the BAT site or Bullet Central site. Even less than in this small article on the Bullet Central Facebook page. No detailed specs, no options list, no pricing, and NOTHING on what constitutes those “many impressive features, and…looks like nothing else on the market” feature set. Worst, for me, nothing on that “totally redesigned fire control system” And how about a bunch of pics of those new features compared to a “standard” BAT. Woefully underwhelming!

By: lee

lee — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 22:47:19 +0000

I didn’t see any real info on bullet central. When can we buy this thing? Lee

By: Grimstod

Grimstod — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 20:37:33 +0000

Agghhh i had this design idea drawn up two years ago. Should have never posted pictures of it online when it was still ruff. Lol. Live and learn.

Really that horisontal locking lug is the future of accuracy. It goes to show how so many people just keep on doing the veryical lug lock just “because we have always done it that way” instead of aproching the design with an open mind. I champion Bat for doing this finally. To bad i was not first.

By: Richard

Richard — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 18:50:03 +0000

What dollar amount is going to be placed on this new wonder boy?