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	<title>Comments on: Army to Buy $12,215 Sniper Rifles from Heckler &amp; Koch</title>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jul 2017 16:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First the &quot;made in America&quot; argument; you might wanna start looking at your homes and telling me if everything says &quot;MADE IN USA&quot; on it. Hell even that stuff probably isn&#039;t, just assembled here. As for the price. It includes Rifle, Day Optic, night vision optic, night vision optic adapter, drag bag, hard case, and most importantly a warranty and service contract. All those combined we actually got a decent deal. Rifle say $3400, a Schmidt and Bender 3x20 is $3400, The system also includes a handheld Jenoptik HLR15 laser rangefinder and the Rheinmettal Soldier Electronics laser light module LLM01, an HK suppressor, that alone is pushing $12,000 I also found this &quot;the precision rifle is delivered to the troops with an L3 Insight thermal imager viewfinder CNVD-T3 and a Qiotiq Merlin LR (long-range) image intensifier to ensure maximum night fighting capability&quot; that plus the warranty and the service contract. You all better shut up before they realize they are getting fucked by the US military.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First the &#8220;made in America&#8221; argument; you might wanna start looking at your homes and telling me if everything says &#8220;MADE IN USA&#8221; on it. Hell even that stuff probably isn&#8217;t, just assembled here. As for the price. It includes Rifle, Day Optic, night vision optic, night vision optic adapter, drag bag, hard case, and most importantly a warranty and service contract. All those combined we actually got a decent deal. Rifle say $3400, a Schmidt and Bender 3&#215;20 is $3400, The system also includes a handheld Jenoptik HLR15 laser rangefinder and the Rheinmettal Soldier Electronics laser light module LLM01, an HK suppressor, that alone is pushing $12,000 I also found this &#8220;the precision rifle is delivered to the troops with an L3 Insight thermal imager viewfinder CNVD-T3 and a Qiotiq Merlin LR (long-range) image intensifier to ensure maximum night fighting capability&#8221; that plus the warranty and the service contract. You all better shut up before they realize they are getting fucked by the US military.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch Shoffner</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mitch Shoffner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2017 17:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about the Invictus DMR (16.5&quot;) system Osprey Combat is developing in a 6.5mm variant? This round and system is suppose to deliver over 1000m capability. It is built on a AR15/M16 platform. Info on the round was presented at the last NDIA conference,

Mitch]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the Invictus DMR (16.5&#8243;) system Osprey Combat is developing in a 6.5mm variant? This round and system is suppose to deliver over 1000m capability. It is built on a AR15/M16 platform. Info on the round was presented at the last NDIA conference,</p>
<p>Mitch</p>
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		<title>By: Randall Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Randall Stevens]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2016 01:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the M110 is still in the inventory then the common magazine (and in my mind make accepting the H&amp;K easier) for both would be an even bigger deal. Magpul SR25 style mags are in my experience VERY reliable as well as cheaper....and I can guarantee there will be times both rifles will end up in the hands of troops occupying the same slice of desert and commonality or lack thereof will rear it&#039;s ugly head. There&#039;s also the possibility of another allied nation with an SR-25 style mag compatible rifle showing up to the fight one day. It&#039;s popularity makes it a near certainty. As for recoil...heck 7.62/308 DOES kick more than 5.56....but not unbearably so. I shoot it standing offhand all the time. I saw Wikipedia lists Delta and Seal Teams as a H&amp;K G28 user but I can&#039;t find any mention of their procurement. Did see a fair number of SCARs though in the hands of some troops downrange I&#039;ll admit but no G28s that I could see]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the M110 is still in the inventory then the common magazine (and in my mind make accepting the H&amp;K easier) for both would be an even bigger deal. Magpul SR25 style mags are in my experience VERY reliable as well as cheaper&#8230;.and I can guarantee there will be times both rifles will end up in the hands of troops occupying the same slice of desert and commonality or lack thereof will rear it&#8217;s ugly head. There&#8217;s also the possibility of another allied nation with an SR-25 style mag compatible rifle showing up to the fight one day. It&#8217;s popularity makes it a near certainty. As for recoil&#8230;heck 7.62/308 DOES kick more than 5.56&#8230;.but not unbearably so. I shoot it standing offhand all the time. I saw Wikipedia lists Delta and Seal Teams as a H&amp;K G28 user but I can&#8217;t find any mention of their procurement. Did see a fair number of SCARs though in the hands of some troops downrange I&#8217;ll admit but no G28s that I could see</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2016 17:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The M110 cost the taxpayers a few dollars shy of $12.K per unit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The M110 cost the taxpayers a few dollars shy of $12.K per unit.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2016 15:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[H&amp;K bested seven other bids for the work. It is supplementing the M110, not replacing it. Improved reliability, improved accuracy and improved ergonomics; reduced weight and length; advanced coatings; improved optics; reduced felt recoil; enhanced suppressor performance; enhanced modular rail capabilities; improved bipod, trigger, pistol grip and stock. Much more to it than a shorter barrel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>H&amp;K bested seven other bids for the work. It is supplementing the M110, not replacing it. Improved reliability, improved accuracy and improved ergonomics; reduced weight and length; advanced coatings; improved optics; reduced felt recoil; enhanced suppressor performance; enhanced modular rail capabilities; improved bipod, trigger, pistol grip and stock. Much more to it than a shorter barrel.</p>
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		<title>By: Davidjoe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Davidjoe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2016 03:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The all steel-uppered rifle is gauranteed 1.5 moa for 10 shots.  This is not more accurate, lighter, or more robust than an M-1 super match in a similar chassis.  Certainly not cheaper.  Cost was the downfall of the intensively machined steel M-14.  Now cost apparently doesn&#039;t matter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The all steel-uppered rifle is gauranteed 1.5 moa for 10 shots.  This is not more accurate, lighter, or more robust than an M-1 super match in a similar chassis.  Certainly not cheaper.  Cost was the downfall of the intensively machined steel M-14.  Now cost apparently doesn&#8217;t matter.</p>
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		<title>By: zippy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zippy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2016 00:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.heckler-koch.com/en/products/military/precision-rifles/g28/g28/overview.html
G28_DB_E_V003.02.12_01.pdf


http://www.qioptiq.com/merlin-lr.html

http://www.opticsplanet.com/insight-technology-cnvd-t3-clip-on-night-vision-thermal-device-ct3-001-a3.html
$26,000 USD]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.heckler-koch.com/en/products/military/precision-rifles/g28/g28/overview.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.heckler-koch.com/en/products/military/precision-rifles/g28/g28/overview.html</a><br />
G28_DB_E_V003.02.12_01.pdf</p>
<p><a href="http://www.qioptiq.com/merlin-lr.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.qioptiq.com/merlin-lr.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.opticsplanet.com/insight-technology-cnvd-t3-clip-on-night-vision-thermal-device-ct3-001-a3.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.opticsplanet.com/insight-technology-cnvd-t3-clip-on-night-vision-thermal-device-ct3-001-a3.html</a><br />
$26,000 USD</p>
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		<title>By: zippy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zippy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2016 20:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some of people need a lesson on the Queen&#039;s English. 
&quot;A goal of the effort was to give snipers a weapon that didn’t “stick out” as a sniper rifle; with a suppressor, the current M110 is 46.5″, that’s 13″ longer than the M4 carbine.&quot;
Ever hear of the “Designated Marksman Rifle”?
Cost. I bet the Army could not find a supplier for the Piston operated 7.62. The local companies are too busy making rifles for civilians...
Those barrels are real expensive.
And the troops, just like cops love to shoot. I have heard more than one Marine say they have burned up a barrel. 
Oh, yea. Go the wiki G28 site. 17 different countries have these rifles....must be a good platform.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of people need a lesson on the Queen&#8217;s English.<br />
&#8220;A goal of the effort was to give snipers a weapon that didn’t “stick out” as a sniper rifle; with a suppressor, the current M110 is 46.5″, that’s 13″ longer than the M4 carbine.&#8221;<br />
Ever hear of the “Designated Marksman Rifle”?<br />
Cost. I bet the Army could not find a supplier for the Piston operated 7.62. The local companies are too busy making rifles for civilians&#8230;<br />
Those barrels are real expensive.<br />
And the troops, just like cops love to shoot. I have heard more than one Marine say they have burned up a barrel.<br />
Oh, yea. Go the wiki G28 site. 17 different countries have these rifles&#8230;.must be a good platform.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2016 17:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not happy about the foreign supplier.  Can&#039;t believe there was not a supplier in the Unites States that could have don&#039;t the exact same rifle and support for the same amount.  But as they say, if you want something F&#039;ed up, just give it to the government.  In the end, if a sniper doesn&#039;t want to use this rifle, they wont.  Most employ multiple systems tailored to the job at hand and these autos are not as accurate as their bolt action rifles.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not happy about the foreign supplier.  Can&#8217;t believe there was not a supplier in the Unites States that could have don&#8217;t the exact same rifle and support for the same amount.  But as they say, if you want something F&#8217;ed up, just give it to the government.  In the end, if a sniper doesn&#8217;t want to use this rifle, they wont.  Most employ multiple systems tailored to the job at hand and these autos are not as accurate as their bolt action rifles.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Washere</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob Washere]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2016 16:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: &quot;where did all the jobs go?&quot;

Welcome to the new global economy where the US plays the role of professional services. Manufacturing and engineering jobs are moving over seas due to higher rates of collegiate STEM matriculation. My guess is this can be accredited directly to failures in the public school system and high cost and low job placement in the American collegiate system.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: &#8220;where did all the jobs go?&#8221;</p>
<p>Welcome to the new global economy where the US plays the role of professional services. Manufacturing and engineering jobs are moving over seas due to higher rates of collegiate STEM matriculation. My guess is this can be accredited directly to failures in the public school system and high cost and low job placement in the American collegiate system.</p>
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