Comments on: The Best-Performing Cartridge Types For F-Class Competition

By: William

William — Thu, 27 Apr 2023 17:06:07 +0000

You guys saying about him being wrong about the 223rem you need to stop and look when this article was made. It was made when the bullets for 223rem were not available like they have been the last 8yrs. For the time he did this article he was correct, the 223 couldnt hang with the 308win then period. Emil is a good guy, great machinist, great shooter. Im sure now he would say differently but a lot has changed since this was done.

By: John B. Rempel

John B. Rempel — Mon, 16 Mar 2020 06:44:24 +0000

Hello again,
Just to add to my previous comment, this is a Rem 700 Long Action ( as this is what I had kicking around).
Thanks again,

By: John B. Rempel

John B. Rempel — Mon, 16 Mar 2020 06:40:21 +0000

Hello,
I am just starting into the F Class shooting. I found your article very informative.So far, I have a trued Rem 700. KS Arms .308 1-9 twist, 28″ heavy Sendero profile. Leupold MK 4 6.5 x 20 Scope with the LR/T reticle. I am going to use a Boyds AT One Laminated stock with Harris Bipod. It is 17.5 pounds. I believe this will work for a beginner. Thanks again for the informative article.

By: shootmore

shootmore — Tue, 11 Sep 2018 15:08:41 +0000

We have a .223 running 90gr SMK’s with Varget and a 30″ Krieger 1:675 twist barrel. Trued, Remington 700 action and an Elisio stock (thanks Gary). Fully cable of cleaning a 500 year target (heck my 11 year old did that). And it shoots well withing 3/4 MOA at 1,000. Now if I was just a better wind reader…….

By: John

John — Thu, 29 Jun 2017 19:19:06 +0000

gstaylorg, Would you share with us the makeup of your rig?

By: John

John — Thu, 29 Jun 2017 19:18:15 +0000

Would you share with us the makeup of your rig?

By: Gene

Gene — Mon, 27 Mar 2017 16:38:26 +0000

The intent of the article was to advise and inform new shooters , and lesser experienced shooters as to the most popular calibers being used in the “F” classes .And the basic “why” they are popular . Not to “diss” any particular caliber .At least that’s the way I read it .
The amount of time , money , effort and energy a new shooter could expend trying to make a .223 viable for the “F” disciplines’ could easily drive them from the sport . So I’d rather see someone working with a 6.5 or .308 than lose that person to the shooting sports . I spend a lot of time at the Berger range , at Ben Avery , and I see a lot of 6.5’s and .308’s . The .223’s ? Not so much….Go figure .

By: Kerry

Kerry — Thu, 23 Mar 2017 14:15:27 +0000

The miss stating that the .223 in not a competitive round needs to take a look at the 2016 California state Palma class champ. The guy took first and even beat the FClass guys in score.
Don’t discount the .223 if you’re willing to put in the work

By: gstaylorg

gstaylorg — Mon, 11 Jul 2016 22:10:47 +0000

In the last year I have won the NE State F-TR MR Championship, the CA State F-TR LR Championship, and the MO State F-TR MR Championship, as well as numerous local F-TR matches. All of these wins were made shooting a .223 with Berger 90 VLDs. Good thing I never read that the .223 isn’t competitive. The fact is that when loaded properly, the 90 VLDs will outshoot most any lead core .308 bullet made up to ~185 gr out to 1000 yd on paper, and I’m referring to the most important paper there is, the paper covering the target face. The ballistics are simple physics, not magic. In addition, how many shooters have tried moving up from 185s to 200 or 215 Hybrids in .308 Win only to find they’re losing more points to vertical than they’re saving on windage because they simply can’t effectively manage the recoil. People are all too often happy to mistakenly poo poo the ballistics of the 90 VLD, but they usually also fail to take into account the almost complete lack of recoil that can dramatically facilitate precision. I have no problem with that. I’ll keep shooting them…and winning.

By: Allen

Allen — Thu, 07 Jul 2016 18:12:55 +0000

Brilliant summation and I totally second his recommendations, particularly in regards to the 223. I have seen so many internet ninjas try and sell others on the virtues of the 90 grain bullets, but those that want to compete to win place or show should heed this advice. I agree the Dasher is sublime, but still have a fond spot in my heart and a rack full of trophies that give credit to its venerable ancestor, the ubiquitous 6mmBR Norma. So nice to see a fellow with your credentials giving such solid advice!!