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	<title>Comments on: Nosler Introduces High-BC, Closed-Meplat RDF Match Bullets</title>
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		<title>By: leo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[leo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2016 12:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re comparing what are likely pre-retail release blems with factory firsts?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re comparing what are likely pre-retail release blems with factory firsts?</p>
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		<title>By: guy4064</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[guy4064]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2016 17:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to question using blems for testing. Id imagine the 6mm bullet needs a 7 twist looking at the BC.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to question using blems for testing. Id imagine the 6mm bullet needs a 7 twist looking at the BC.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark C</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2016 05:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Disappointing Performance. I bought a bag of 6mm cosmetic &quot;blems&quot; that claim to have no effect on performance. All of the bullets looked fine - I didn&#039;t notice any cosmetic blemishes at all.  Here is how I tested these bullets:  I measured 8 bullets pulled at random out of the bag with micrometers and a Sinclair bullet comparator to get this data. I found the bullets to be about 5 times more inconsistent than Lapua Scenar 6mm 105 grain bullets. Here is the data for the RDF bullets:
Bullet diameters averaged 0.2431 with a max of 0.2433 and a min of 0.2430 for a range of 0.0003 and standard deviation of 0.00008. Lapua ave was 0.2431, max 0.2431, min 0.2431, and SD of 0.00003.
 Bullet length averaged 1.2533 with a max of 1.2623 and min of 1.2449 for a range of 0.0174 and SD of 0.00627. Lapua ave was 1.2515, max 1.2537, min 1.2497 for a range of 0.0040 and SD of 0.00133.
 The next number is just a number that indicates how consistent the bases to ogive distance of the bullets are. The numbers only indicate how consistent the bullets are – the numbers themselves are meaningless. The bullets are placed in the Sinclair comparator and then a dial indicator measures off the bullet base. The RDF average was 0.2325 with a max of 0.2345 and min of 0.2300 for a range of 0.0045 and SD of 0.00144. Lapua ave was 0.2731, max 0.2735, min 0.2725 for a range of 0.0010 and SD of 0.00030.
So the dimensions of the Lapua are about 5 times more consistent than the RDF bullets.  If you reload by using cartridge overall length only, these RDF bullets would be giving you bullet jump distances that vary by 17 thousandths! That is a very big variation in a 6mm bullet that is designed for outstanding accuracy. That much jump would guarantee your groups expand a lot. Your velocities might be inconsistent because of inconsistent depths of the bullet down into the case neck. If you can measure your seated cartridge by measuring the ogive to cartridge base you would have more consistent jump distances from the ogive to the barrel lands, but you would still have the issue of the bullet base being different depths down into your case neck and powder.
I tested 3 different cartridge lengths at 100 yards. It is a very short distance so inconsistencies will be minimized at such a short range. Shooting was done from a rest in calm conditions. Rifle has a 26” Shilen select stainless match barrel with 1:8 twist.
Group 1 was loaded with H4895 29.2gr Lapua brass trimmed to 1.555 and bullets seated to touch the lands.  5 shot group was 0.52” group, average velocity 2825.6, high 2835, low 2816, ES 19 and SD 7.6. 
Group 2 was loaded with H4895 29.2gr Lapua brass trimmed to 1.555 and bullets seated to have 0.005 jump to the lands. 5 shot group was 0.98” group, average velocity 2816.6, high 2822, low 2810, ES 12, SD 4.8.
Group 3 was loaded with H4895 29.2gr Lapua brass trimmed to 1.555 and bullets seated to  have 0.010 jump to the lands. 5 shot group was 0.95” group, average velocity 2830.4, high 2841, low 2825, ES 16, SD 6.4.
These groups are very large for my 6mm. Groups with Lapua 105 grain bullets are much smaller. Factory Lapua ammo with 105 bullets had groups between 0.49 and 0.68. My handload with 105 grain Scenars is 0.35 with the bullets touching the lands.
In my opinion after testing, these Nosler RDF bullets look nice but they do not perform well. My guess is the dimensional inconsistency contributes to the poor performance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disappointing Performance. I bought a bag of 6mm cosmetic &#8220;blems&#8221; that claim to have no effect on performance. All of the bullets looked fine &#8211; I didn&#8217;t notice any cosmetic blemishes at all.  Here is how I tested these bullets:  I measured 8 bullets pulled at random out of the bag with micrometers and a Sinclair bullet comparator to get this data. I found the bullets to be about 5 times more inconsistent than Lapua Scenar 6mm 105 grain bullets. Here is the data for the RDF bullets:<br />
Bullet diameters averaged 0.2431 with a max of 0.2433 and a min of 0.2430 for a range of 0.0003 and standard deviation of 0.00008. Lapua ave was 0.2431, max 0.2431, min 0.2431, and SD of 0.00003.<br />
 Bullet length averaged 1.2533 with a max of 1.2623 and min of 1.2449 for a range of 0.0174 and SD of 0.00627. Lapua ave was 1.2515, max 1.2537, min 1.2497 for a range of 0.0040 and SD of 0.00133.<br />
 The next number is just a number that indicates how consistent the bases to ogive distance of the bullets are. The numbers only indicate how consistent the bullets are – the numbers themselves are meaningless. The bullets are placed in the Sinclair comparator and then a dial indicator measures off the bullet base. The RDF average was 0.2325 with a max of 0.2345 and min of 0.2300 for a range of 0.0045 and SD of 0.00144. Lapua ave was 0.2731, max 0.2735, min 0.2725 for a range of 0.0010 and SD of 0.00030.<br />
So the dimensions of the Lapua are about 5 times more consistent than the RDF bullets.  If you reload by using cartridge overall length only, these RDF bullets would be giving you bullet jump distances that vary by 17 thousandths! That is a very big variation in a 6mm bullet that is designed for outstanding accuracy. That much jump would guarantee your groups expand a lot. Your velocities might be inconsistent because of inconsistent depths of the bullet down into the case neck. If you can measure your seated cartridge by measuring the ogive to cartridge base you would have more consistent jump distances from the ogive to the barrel lands, but you would still have the issue of the bullet base being different depths down into your case neck and powder.<br />
I tested 3 different cartridge lengths at 100 yards. It is a very short distance so inconsistencies will be minimized at such a short range. Shooting was done from a rest in calm conditions. Rifle has a 26” Shilen select stainless match barrel with 1:8 twist.<br />
Group 1 was loaded with H4895 29.2gr Lapua brass trimmed to 1.555 and bullets seated to touch the lands.  5 shot group was 0.52” group, average velocity 2825.6, high 2835, low 2816, ES 19 and SD 7.6.<br />
Group 2 was loaded with H4895 29.2gr Lapua brass trimmed to 1.555 and bullets seated to have 0.005 jump to the lands. 5 shot group was 0.98” group, average velocity 2816.6, high 2822, low 2810, ES 12, SD 4.8.<br />
Group 3 was loaded with H4895 29.2gr Lapua brass trimmed to 1.555 and bullets seated to  have 0.010 jump to the lands. 5 shot group was 0.95” group, average velocity 2830.4, high 2841, low 2825, ES 16, SD 6.4.<br />
These groups are very large for my 6mm. Groups with Lapua 105 grain bullets are much smaller. Factory Lapua ammo with 105 bullets had groups between 0.49 and 0.68. My handload with 105 grain Scenars is 0.35 with the bullets touching the lands.<br />
In my opinion after testing, these Nosler RDF bullets look nice but they do not perform well. My guess is the dimensional inconsistency contributes to the poor performance.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2016 17:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The 105&#039;s are $140 for 500 and they are posted and tipped.. Buy a thousand and sort to your specifications...lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 105&#8217;s are $140 for 500 and they are posted and tipped.. Buy a thousand and sort to your specifications&#8230;lol</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Kayser</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rich Kayser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2016 04:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well, the Cubs are going to the world series.  Anything is possible...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, the Cubs are going to the world series.  Anything is possible&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nebc</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nebc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2016 04:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Their web site says available in 2017]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their web site says available in 2017</p>
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		<title>By: guy4064</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[guy4064]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2016 19:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s the Nosler link with quit a bit of information and pricing on the new bullets. 


http://www.nosler.com/rdf-bullet]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the Nosler link with quit a bit of information and pricing on the new bullets. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nosler.com/rdf-bullet" rel="nofollow">http://www.nosler.com/rdf-bullet</a></p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Terry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2016 13:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where can I buy them?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where can I buy them?</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2016 10:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Keen to see the BC on the 6mm 105gr. Hope they introduce some 7mm options too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keen to see the BC on the 6mm 105gr. Hope they introduce some 7mm options too.</p>
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		<title>By: JRS</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JRS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2016 09:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[$29.00-$35.00 per hundred.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$29.00-$35.00 per hundred.</p>
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