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	<title>Comments on: 300 Blackout Basics &#8212; Specs and Cartridge INFO</title>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2020 10:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Twist-rate!

7.62 x 39 usually runs in barrels with a 1:10&quot; (ish) twist. This is actually much tighter twist required to stabilize the short 124gn. bullets. It happened that way because when the Russians developed the round, all of their 7.62mm barrel making machinery was built to make 1:10&quot; twist barrels for a bazillion Mosin Nagants and a swag of machine guns in 7.62 x 54R. Note that they used exactly the same twist on  the TT30 and TT33 auto pistols and millions of SMGs chambered in 7.62 x 25. It seemed to work OK for all those years. 

However, if you try to shoot &quot;custom&quot; loaded 7.62 x 39 ammo loaded with a 220gn bullet from a 1:10 twist barrel, you will be disappointed because the bullet will not be DRIVEN fast enough to SPIN fast enough to stabilize correctly.

Thus, &quot;proper&#039; 300 BLK and .300 Whisper, before it, run with tighter twist barrels. 1:8&quot; or increasingly, 1:7&quot;, especially if you want to stabilize subsonic, LONG bullets at low temperatures. The LAST thing you want is a &quot;wobbly&quot; bullet going through your expensive muffler, not quite behaving itself.

Lighter, 125gn bullets won&#039;t care, but long, slow bullets need FAST spin-rates.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twist-rate!</p>
<p>7.62 x 39 usually runs in barrels with a 1:10&#8243; (ish) twist. This is actually much tighter twist required to stabilize the short 124gn. bullets. It happened that way because when the Russians developed the round, all of their 7.62mm barrel making machinery was built to make 1:10&#8243; twist barrels for a bazillion Mosin Nagants and a swag of machine guns in 7.62 x 54R. Note that they used exactly the same twist on  the TT30 and TT33 auto pistols and millions of SMGs chambered in 7.62 x 25. It seemed to work OK for all those years. </p>
<p>However, if you try to shoot &#8220;custom&#8221; loaded 7.62 x 39 ammo loaded with a 220gn bullet from a 1:10 twist barrel, you will be disappointed because the bullet will not be DRIVEN fast enough to SPIN fast enough to stabilize correctly.</p>
<p>Thus, &#8220;proper&#8217; 300 BLK and .300 Whisper, before it, run with tighter twist barrels. 1:8&#8243; or increasingly, 1:7&#8243;, especially if you want to stabilize subsonic, LONG bullets at low temperatures. The LAST thing you want is a &#8220;wobbly&#8221; bullet going through your expensive muffler, not quite behaving itself.</p>
<p>Lighter, 125gn bullets won&#8217;t care, but long, slow bullets need FAST spin-rates.</p>
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		<title>By: TXWheelgunner</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TXWheelgunner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2019 17:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Spend the money on a decent upper. It&#039;s a 30 second swap from 300blk to .556 
I have a Sig red dot on my 556 upper and a 4-12x40 Bushnell scope on my 300. Best of both worlds. I don&#039;t shoot subsonic. FWIW.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spend the money on a decent upper. It&#8217;s a 30 second swap from 300blk to .556<br />
I have a Sig red dot on my 556 upper and a 4-12&#215;40 Bushnell scope on my 300. Best of both worlds. I don&#8217;t shoot subsonic. FWIW.</p>
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		<title>By: Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wilson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2018 15:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dennis- 300 BLK starts with a 5.56 casing that they neck down much shorter, allowing for a wider and longer bullet that can now weigh significantly more than any 5.56 can. And using the 5.56 casing and same length round (from casing base to bullet tip) means they can use 5.56 magazines with no capacity loss. 7.62 has a wider casing and requires different size magazines along with a different bolt. 300 BLK was a way to achieve similar ballistics as the .308- with the least modifications to your 5.56. All you need is a bigger diameter barrel. So you can ball on a budget and just buy the barrel and make the swap when needed-or buy just brand new upper already setup for 300 BLK and throw it on your existing lower. Either way you go it is cheaper and requires the least modifications-while providing far superior performance and effectiveness over 5.56 in certain scenarios.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis- 300 BLK starts with a 5.56 casing that they neck down much shorter, allowing for a wider and longer bullet that can now weigh significantly more than any 5.56 can. And using the 5.56 casing and same length round (from casing base to bullet tip) means they can use 5.56 magazines with no capacity loss. 7.62 has a wider casing and requires different size magazines along with a different bolt. 300 BLK was a way to achieve similar ballistics as the .308- with the least modifications to your 5.56. All you need is a bigger diameter barrel. So you can ball on a budget and just buy the barrel and make the swap when needed-or buy just brand new upper already setup for 300 BLK and throw it on your existing lower. Either way you go it is cheaper and requires the least modifications-while providing far superior performance and effectiveness over 5.56 in certain scenarios.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Apr 2017 15:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dennis, running 7.62x39 in an AR has a whole bunch of issues on its own.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis, running 7.62&#215;39 in an AR has a whole bunch of issues on its own.</p>
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		<title>By: Bo Guss</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bo Guss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2017 07:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With a warm barrel/suppressor unit, it is possible to shoot impressive groups. Out of a cold unit, you will always have a flyer, usually the first shot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With a warm barrel/suppressor unit, it is possible to shoot impressive groups. Out of a cold unit, you will always have a flyer, usually the first shot.</p>
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		<title>By: NineWays</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NineWays]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2017 16:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Though it&#039;s a common report that subsonic ammo isn&#039;t remarkably accurate for most users, I&#039;ve been very pleased with my Remington 700&#039;s performance with 208 AMaxs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though it&#8217;s a common report that subsonic ammo isn&#8217;t remarkably accurate for most users, I&#8217;ve been very pleased with my Remington 700&#8217;s performance with 208 AMaxs.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Santiago</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dennis Santiago]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2017 15:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The question that I&#039;ve always asked when I look at this is is why hasn&#039;t someone figured out one can just as easily make a modern set of 125gr and 220gr 7.62x39&#039;s and blow away the .300 BLK at it&#039;s own game?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question that I&#8217;ve always asked when I look at this is is why hasn&#8217;t someone figured out one can just as easily make a modern set of 125gr and 220gr 7.62&#215;39&#8217;s and blow away the .300 BLK at it&#8217;s own game?</p>
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