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		<title>By: Steve M</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Aug 2017 04:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A tip when installing on TIGHT pic rails, I hammer a flat-bladed screwdriver into the diagonal slot above the screw head which wedges the ring apart a bit and allow an easier installation.

The XTR sig rings come with &quot;20&quot; thickness inserts, which are great to cant your scope so that you have ALL of the travel available.  This turns my Sightron SIII scopes into Zerostop equipped scopes as the bottom of the elevation travel is my zero.  (a 1/4&quot; wide piece of business card thickness paper between the insert and ring can supplement the cant of non-XTR sigs as well)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A tip when installing on TIGHT pic rails, I hammer a flat-bladed screwdriver into the diagonal slot above the screw head which wedges the ring apart a bit and allow an easier installation.</p>
<p>The XTR sig rings come with &#8220;20&#8221; thickness inserts, which are great to cant your scope so that you have ALL of the travel available.  This turns my Sightron SIII scopes into Zerostop equipped scopes as the bottom of the elevation travel is my zero.  (a 1/4&#8243; wide piece of business card thickness paper between the insert and ring can supplement the cant of non-XTR sigs as well)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris-NZ</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris-NZ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2017 19:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I try to use Signatures or the lined Sako/Tikka Optilocks on my scopes.

I just cringe when I see nice scopes ruined by gorillas hanging on wrenches/Allen keys/..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I try to use Signatures or the lined Sako/Tikka Optilocks on my scopes.</p>
<p>I just cringe when I see nice scopes ruined by gorillas hanging on wrenches/Allen keys/..</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2017 14:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s very important to differentiate between precision shot to shot in a string, and the same day over day. I&#039;ve owned and used several (6-10?) sets of these rings over a period of 10-15 yrs, and under a pretty fixed set of conditions, they are fine, but they do NOT hold absolute zero across days with varying temps, etc. If you want to be able to be able to rely on your zero, skip these rings. That is to say, if you can always fire &quot;sighters&quot;, then fine, but if your cold bore shot counts, these rings will leave you frustrated. My experience was with several sets, on several guns, in northern Midwest USA climate, at ranges out to ~1000 yards. Switched to well made all metal rings and have never had a problem since.

EDITOR: Everything is possible -- we thank Steve for his observations. However, we have Burris Signature Zees fitted on numerous rifles, one of which tied the club range record for the varmint silhouette match. Shooting in California, we have never experienced ANY drift. Rifles have held zero for over a decade. However, when we moved the scope fore or aft to change eye relief for prone vs. bench shooting we did have to re-zero the rifle. In our experience, though, once the inserts have been positioned properly, and the rings tensioned correctly, they hold just fine. One other commenter suggested the use of Rosin to get extra grip.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s very important to differentiate between precision shot to shot in a string, and the same day over day. I&#8217;ve owned and used several (6-10?) sets of these rings over a period of 10-15 yrs, and under a pretty fixed set of conditions, they are fine, but they do NOT hold absolute zero across days with varying temps, etc. If you want to be able to be able to rely on your zero, skip these rings. That is to say, if you can always fire &#8220;sighters&#8221;, then fine, but if your cold bore shot counts, these rings will leave you frustrated. My experience was with several sets, on several guns, in northern Midwest USA climate, at ranges out to ~1000 yards. Switched to well made all metal rings and have never had a problem since.</p>
<p>EDITOR: Everything is possible &#8212; we thank Steve for his observations. However, we have Burris Signature Zees fitted on numerous rifles, one of which tied the club range record for the varmint silhouette match. Shooting in California, we have never experienced ANY drift. Rifles have held zero for over a decade. However, when we moved the scope fore or aft to change eye relief for prone vs. bench shooting we did have to re-zero the rifle. In our experience, though, once the inserts have been positioned properly, and the rings tensioned correctly, they hold just fine. One other commenter suggested the use of Rosin to get extra grip.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Seaman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fred Seaman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2017 13:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve started switching to Burris Signature Zee rings. Even for my big boomers like 338 Edge and bigger.

At first I had slippage but came up with an easy fix. Rosin. Same as used by sports or barrel vises. That is where I got the idea, from using it on my barrel vise.

I have used different spacers to add angle to the scope offset. The numbers on the offset are thousands of an inch offset. The bulliten http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2017/08/how-to-calculate-true-elevation-changes-with-burris-sig-rings/ shows how to calculate the actual inches/MOA offset. Follow the directions then devide by 1.047 to get actual MOA, however, that is not really important.

The important thing is that I was able to go from a minimum 700 yard zero and dial to 2100 yards. I have since changed to a 1000 yard zero for that rifle]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve started switching to Burris Signature Zee rings. Even for my big boomers like 338 Edge and bigger.</p>
<p>At first I had slippage but came up with an easy fix. Rosin. Same as used by sports or barrel vises. That is where I got the idea, from using it on my barrel vise.</p>
<p>I have used different spacers to add angle to the scope offset. The numbers on the offset are thousands of an inch offset. The bulliten <a href="http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2017/08/how-to-calculate-true-elevation-changes-with-burris-sig-rings/" rel="nofollow">http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2017/08/how-to-calculate-true-elevation-changes-with-burris-sig-rings/</a> shows how to calculate the actual inches/MOA offset. Follow the directions then devide by 1.047 to get actual MOA, however, that is not really important.</p>
<p>The important thing is that I was able to go from a minimum 700 yard zero and dial to 2100 yards. I have since changed to a 1000 yard zero for that rifle</p>
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		<title>By: Hoot</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hoot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2015 17:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I have liked these rings for their gentle treatment of the scope body, I recently had to take advantage of the offset but not for elevation. I bough a minty 1965 U.S. marked Remington 40X rifle. While it is a fantastic example, the scope base holes must have been drilled by a drunk. With a straight piece of 1&quot; 4041 aluminum tube clamped into the rings, the line of sight drifted almost half an inch by the end of the barrel. Utilizing +20 MOA on the front and -20 MOA on the rear ring, it pulled in to where all it took to zero my T36 scope was 8 clicks at 50 yds. I&#039;d have been some serious change if not for them.

Hoot]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I have liked these rings for their gentle treatment of the scope body, I recently had to take advantage of the offset but not for elevation. I bough a minty 1965 U.S. marked Remington 40X rifle. While it is a fantastic example, the scope base holes must have been drilled by a drunk. With a straight piece of 1&#8243; 4041 aluminum tube clamped into the rings, the line of sight drifted almost half an inch by the end of the barrel. Utilizing +20 MOA on the front and -20 MOA on the rear ring, it pulled in to where all it took to zero my T36 scope was 8 clicks at 50 yds. I&#8217;d have been some serious change if not for them.</p>
<p>Hoot</p>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elliott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2015 09:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Happy to hear that these rings are highly rated not just for the in-build preload, but for their precision.

I just got these on my first rifle to fix a problem, I wanted to shoot silhouette and try F-TR on the same rig but foolishly bought a scope without enough adjustment. The inserts settled that nicely, though other shooters would be advised to do what I didn&#039;t: take the wrench and inserts with you to the range.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy to hear that these rings are highly rated not just for the in-build preload, but for their precision.</p>
<p>I just got these on my first rifle to fix a problem, I wanted to shoot silhouette and try F-TR on the same rig but foolishly bought a scope without enough adjustment. The inserts settled that nicely, though other shooters would be advised to do what I didn&#8217;t: take the wrench and inserts with you to the range.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2015 04:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My only complaint is the exceptional tight picatanny rail fitting and the need for a scope alignment tool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My only complaint is the exceptional tight picatanny rail fitting and the need for a scope alignment tool.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2015 16:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I use Burris Signature rings exclusively.  They were a necessity on a Kimber 82G that wouldn&#039;t have gotten on paper @ 50 yards without them.  I also like to play around with different scopes, and so far the Burris Signatures have yet to leave even the faintest amount of scope marks on any scope I&#039;ve used them on.  It is too bad they are made in China now instead of the USA, but from what I can tell the quality is at least the same.  I actually bought a NIB set of older USA made Signature Zees a couple months ago that the top screw holes were REALLY messed up on (holes drilled oversize and off center), and all the made in China ones I&#039;ve had have been perfect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use Burris Signature rings exclusively.  They were a necessity on a Kimber 82G that wouldn&#8217;t have gotten on paper @ 50 yards without them.  I also like to play around with different scopes, and so far the Burris Signatures have yet to leave even the faintest amount of scope marks on any scope I&#8217;ve used them on.  It is too bad they are made in China now instead of the USA, but from what I can tell the quality is at least the same.  I actually bought a NIB set of older USA made Signature Zees a couple months ago that the top screw holes were REALLY messed up on (holes drilled oversize and off center), and all the made in China ones I&#8217;ve had have been perfect.</p>
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		<title>By: Bevan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bevan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2015 13:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love these rings.  I have swapped out most of my rings for these so I can preload MOA into my scopes for different events.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love these rings.  I have swapped out most of my rings for these so I can preload MOA into my scopes for different events.</p>
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		<title>By: yenak</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yenak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2015 12:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree hole heartedly with what JCS says. It&#039;s time Burris gets up to date. Especially with the limited 30mm inserts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree hole heartedly with what JCS says. It&#8217;s time Burris gets up to date. Especially with the limited 30mm inserts.</p>
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