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		<title>Vertical Dispersion Test &#8212; Six Primer Types Tested at 500 Yards</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do primer types make a significant difference in accuracy or vertical dispersion at long range? The answer is &#8220;maybe&#8221;. Here&#8217;s one anecdotal study that tracked vertical variance among six different primer types. The tester is a good shooter with a very accurate rifle &#8212; four of the six 4-shot groups were under 2&#8243; at 500 [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p><em>Do primer types make a significant difference in accuracy or vertical dispersion at long range? The answer is &#8220;maybe&#8221;. Here&#8217;s one anecdotal study that tracked vertical variance among six different primer types. The tester is a good shooter with a very accurate rifle &#8212; four of the six 4-shot groups were under 2&#8243; at 500 yards. This test doesn&#8217;t settle the question, but does suggest that it may be <strong>worth trying a few different primer types</strong> with your match ammo.</em></p>
<p>Here is a very interesting test for the 6 BRA (6mmBR Ackley) cartridge. Forum member James Phillips, a talented long-range benchrest shooter, tested SIX different primer types from three different manufacturers. To help determine vertical dispersion, James set his target out at 500 yards. He then proceeded to shoot 4-shot groups, in order, with each primer type. Velocities were recorded with a chrono. The photo above shows the results. James says: &#8220;I&#8217;ll retest the best two for accuracy and consistency with 10 shots each&#8221;. <a href="https://accurateshooter.net/pix/jprime1901big.jpg" target="_blank">CLICK HERE</a> for full-screen target photo.</p>
<p><img src="https://accurateshooter.net/pix/bordss605.jpg" alt="Wheeler 6BR 6mmBR Ackley Improved James Phillips"></p>
<p>As you can see, ALL the groups are pretty impressive. The smallest groups, 1.253&#8243;, was shot with CCI 400 primers. Next best (and very close) was CCI BR4, at 1.275&#8243; for four shots. The &#8220;flat line&#8221; winner was the Remington 7.5, at upper left. There was almost no vertical. If you are intrigued by this interesting primer test, you can join the discussion in this <a href="http://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/6bra-6-primer-test-at-500-yards.3976337/" target="_blank">Primer Test FORUM THREAD</a>.</p>
<table border="1" width="600" cellpadding="3">
<tr>
<td><strong>Primer Brand</strong></td>
<td width="120"><strong>Group Size</strong>
<td><strong>Velocity</strong></td>
<td><strong>Extreme Spread</strong></td>
<td><strong>Std Deviation</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Remington 7.5</td>
<td>1.985&#8243; 4 shot
<td>2955 FPS</td>
<td>8 FPS</td>
<td>4.0 FPS</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Federal 205M</td>
<td>2.200&#8243; 4 shot</td>
<td>2951 FPS</td>
<td>11 FPS</td>
<td>4.8 FPS</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Sellier Bellot SR</td>
<td>1.673&#8243; 4 shot</td>
<td>2950 FPS</td>
<td>14 FPS</td>
<td>5.9 FPS</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>CCI 450M</td>
<td>2.341&#8243; 4 shot</td>
<td>2947 FPS</td>
<td>14 FPS</td>
<td>6.6 FPS</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>CCI 400</td>
<td>1.253&#8243; 4 shot</td>
<td>2950 FPS</td>
<td>3 FPS</td>
<td>1.3 FPS</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>CCI BR4</td>
<td>1.275&#8243; 4 shot</td>
<td>2949 FPS</td>
<td>15 FPS</td>
<td>6.9 FPS</td>
</tr>
</table>
<p>CARTRIDGE: 6mmBR Ackley, aka 6 BRA. Parent case is 6mmBR Norma. The 6 BRA is fire-formed to create a 40-degree shoulder and less body taper. Capacity is increased, but the neck is longer than a 6mm Dasher. The capacity is enough to get to the 2950+ FPS accuracy node. Some shooters say the 6 BRA is more forgiving than the 6mm Dasher. The 6 BRA is certainly easier to fire-form.</p>
<p>LOAD SPEC: 6 BRA (40&deg; 6 BR Improved), 31.1 grains Hodgdon H4895, Bart&#8217;s 105gr &#8220;Hammer&#8221; bullets.</p>
<h2>TEST REPORT &#8212; Conditions, Shooting Method, Loading Method</h2>
<p><em>Tester James Phillips posted this report in our</em> <a href="https://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/6bra-6-primer-test-at-500-yards.3976337/" target="_blank">Shooters&#8217; Forum</a>:<br />
Conditions: The testing was done in the morning over flags. The flags never moved or even twitched. I had as perfect conditions as I could have asked for. It was overcast so no mirage and no wind. There were no other shooters, just me. </p>
<p><strong>Test Procedure:</strong> Each shot was precisely shot at my pace and centered the best possible using my Nightforce 15-55X scope. I did not use the round-robin method. Each four-shot group with the same was shot at one time. Then I moved onto the next primer. Everything felt right for each and every shot fired today. Of course I could repeat the test tomorrow and it could be exact opposite of today&#8217;s test. We can chase this forever. But [soon] I’m going to test the BR4 and 400 primer&#8230; for best accuracy and consistency for 10 shots each.</p>
<p><strong>How Rounds Were Loaded:</strong> Each load was weighed to one (1) kernel of powder. So I know that’s as good as I can weigh them. Each bullet seating force was within 1# on my 21st Century hydraulic arbor press.</p>
<p><strong>Previous Initial Load Testing:</strong> All groups were shot with 31.1 grains of H4895. During initial load testing I settled in on the Sellier &#038; Bellot primer to finalize everything as it showed more promise over the CCI 450 Magnum I also tried. I was actually surprised to have seen the higher ES and SD from that primer today along with the vertical shown. [Editor: Look carefully &#8212; one shot from the CCI 450 is right in the center black diamond, stretching the vertical. By contrast the Rem 7.5 had almost no vertical.]</p>
<p><a href="https://accurateshooter.net/pix/jprime1901big.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://accurateshooter.net/pix/jprime1902.jpg" alt="primer 500 yard testing node vertical H4895 BRA"></a></p>
<p><strong>Velocity and NODE Considerations:</strong> I was about 5-6 FPS above what appeared to been my optimum velocity of 2943-2945 FPS, so I’ll test 5 shots of 31.0 and 5 of 31.1 and see what happens from there. I can only assume my velocities where higher due to the higher humidity and of course temps were 5 degrees warmer this morning as well. It wasn’t far off but I noticed it.</p>
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		<title>Quest for Less Vertical &#8212; Six Primer Types Tested at 500 Yards</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2020 09:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do primer types make a significant difference in accuracy or vertical dispersion at long range? The answer is &#8220;maybe&#8221;. Here&#8217;s one anecdotal study that tracked vertical variance among six different primer types. The tester is a good shooter with a very accurate rifle &#8212; four of the six 4-shot groups were under 2&#8243; at 500 [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p><em>Do primer types make a significant difference in accuracy or vertical dispersion at long range? The answer is &#8220;maybe&#8221;. Here&#8217;s one anecdotal study that tracked vertical variance among six different primer types. The tester is a good shooter with a very accurate rifle &#8212; four of the six 4-shot groups were under 2&#8243; at 500 yards. This test doesn&#8217;t settle the question, but does suggest that it may be worth trying a few different primer types with your match ammo.</em></p>
<p>Here is a very interesting test for the 6 BRA (6mmBR Ackley) cartridge. Forum member James Phillips, a talented long-range benchrest shooter, tested SIX different primer types from three different manufacturers. To help determine vertical dispersion, James set his <strong>target out at 500 yards</strong>. He then proceeded to shoot 4-shot groups, in order, with each primer type. Velocities were recorded with a chrono. The photo above shows the results. James says: &#8220;I&#8217;ll retest the best two for accuracy and consistency with 10 shots each&#8221;. <a href="https://accurateshooter.net/pix/jprime1901big.jpg" target="_blank">CLICK HERE</a> for full-screen target photo.</p>
<p><img src="http://accurateshooter.net/pix/bordss605.jpg" alt="Wheeler 6BR 6mmBR Ackley Improved James Phillips"></p>
<p>As you can see, ALL the groups are pretty impressive. The smallest groups, 1.253&#8243;, was shot with CCI 400 primers. Next best (and very close) was CCI BR4, at 1.275&#8243; for four shots. The &#8220;flat line&#8221; winner was the Remington 7.5, at upper left. There was almost no vertical. If you are intrigued by this interesting primer test, you can join the discussion in this <a href="http://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/6bra-6-primer-test-at-500-yards.3976337/" target="_blank">Primer Test FORUM THREAD</a>.</p>
<table border="1" width="600" cellpadding="3">
<tr>
<td><strong>Primer Brand</strong></td>
<td width="120"><strong>Group Size</strong>
<td><strong>Velocity</strong></td>
<td><strong>Extreme Spread</strong></td>
<td><strong>Std Deviation</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Remington 7.5</td>
<td>1.985&#8243; 4 shot
<td>2955 FPS</td>
<td>8 FPS</td>
<td>4.0 FPS</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Federal 205M</td>
<td>2.200&#8243; 4 shot</td>
<td>2951 FPS</td>
<td>11 FPS</td>
<td>4.8 FPS</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Sellier Bellot SR</td>
<td>1.673&#8243; 4 shot</td>
<td>2950 FPS</td>
<td>14 FPS</td>
<td>5.9 FPS</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>CCI 450M</td>
<td>2.341&#8243; 4 shot</td>
<td>2947 FPS</td>
<td>14 FPS</td>
<td>6.6 FPS</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>CCI 400</td>
<td>1.253&#8243; 4 shot</td>
<td>2950 FPS</td>
<td>3 FPS</td>
<td>1.3 FPS</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>CCI BR4</td>
<td>1.275&#8243; 4 shot</td>
<td>2949 FPS</td>
<td>15 FPS</td>
<td>6.9 FPS</td>
</tr>
</table>
<p>CARTRIDGE: 6mmBR Ackley, aka 6 BRA. Parent case is 6mmBR Norma. The 6 BRA is fire-formed to create a 40-degree shoulder and less body taper. Capacity is increased, but the neck is longer than a 6mm Dasher. The capacity is enough to get to the 2950+ FPS accuracy node. Some shooters say the 6 BRA is more forgiving than the 6mm Dasher. The 6 BRA is certainly easier to fire-form.</p>
<p>LOAD SPEC: 6 BRA (40&deg; 6 BR Improved), 31.1 grains Hodgdon H4895, Bart&#8217;s 105gr &#8220;Hammer&#8221; bullets.</p>
<h2>TEST REPORT &#8212; Conditions, Shooting Method, Loading Method</h2>
<p><em>Tester James Phillips posted this report in our</em> <a href="http://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/6bra-6-primer-test-at-500-yards.3976337/" target="_blank">Shooters&#8217; Forum</a>:<br />
Conditions: The testing was done in the morning over flags. The flags never moved or even twitched. I had as perfect conditions as I could have asked for. It was overcast so no mirage and no wind. There were no other shooters, just me. </p>
<p><strong>Test Procedure:</strong> Each shot was precisely shot at my pace and centered the best possible using my Nightforce 15-55X scope. I did not use the round-robin method. Each four-shot group with the same was shot at one time. Then I moved onto the next primer. Everything felt right for each and every shot fired today. Of course I could repeat the test tomorrow and it could be exact opposite of today&#8217;s test. We can chase this forever. But [soon] I’m going to test the BR4 and 400 primer&#8230; for best accuracy and consistency for 10 shots each.</p>
<p><strong>How Rounds Were Loaded:</strong> Each load was weighed to one (1) kernel of powder. So I know that’s as good as I can weigh them. Each bullet seating force was within 1# on my 21st Century hydraulic arbor press.</p>
<p><strong>Previous Initial Load Testing:</strong> All groups were shot with 31.1 grains of H4895. During initial load testing I settled in on the Sellier &#038; Bellot primer to finalize everything as it showed more promise over the CCI 450 Magnum I also tried. I was actually surprised to have seen the higher ES and SD from that primer today along with the vertical shown. [Editor: Look carefully &#8212; one shot from the CCI 450 is right in the center black diamond, stretching the vertical. By contrast the Rem 7.5 had almost no vertical.]</p>
<p><b>Groups Shot at 500 Yards with 6 BRA</b><br />
<a href="https://accurateshooter.net/pix/jprime1901big.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://accurateshooter.net/pix/jprime1902.jpg" alt="primer 500 yard testing node vertical H4895 BRA"></a></p>
<p><strong>Velocity and NODE Considerations:</strong> I was about 5-6 FPS above what appeared to been my optimum velocity of 2943-2945 FPS, so I’ll test 5 shots of 31.0 and 5 of 31.1 and see what happens from there. I can only assume my velocities where higher due to the higher humidity and of course temps were 5 degrees warmer this morning as well. It wasn’t far off but I noticed it.</p>
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