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		<title>Ace S&amp;W Pistol Instructor Offers Critic A Slice of Humble Pie</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2023 18:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shown is the Smith &#038; Wesson M&#038;P 9mm model. The M&#038;P 45 is the same except for chambering. You&#8217;ll hear some shooters complain loudly about the (perceived) lack of accuracy of their handguns. Well, sometimes the problem IS the gun, but other times the problem is &#8220;driver error&#8221;. At the range, we often hear guys [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<i>Shown is the Smith &#038; Wesson M&#038;P 9mm model. The M&#038;P 45 is the same except for chambering.</i></p>
<p>You&#8217;ll hear some shooters complain loudly about the (perceived) lack of accuracy of their handguns. Well, sometimes the problem IS the gun, but other times the problem is &#8220;driver error&#8221;. At the range, we often hear guys blame their gun for poor accuracy, when in fact the real problem is lack of operator skill. This saga, posted a while back on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100008171890594" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, is a case in point.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the story. A gentleman attending an armorer&#8217;s course at Smith &#038; Wesson was loudly dissing a S&#038;W M&#038;P 45, claiming it could not shoot. Very loudly he tells the instructor, &#8220;the M&#038;P 45 one of our officers is carrying is sh*t&#8221;. He then trash-talks the gun, saying that both he and his officer couldn’t get the gun to shoot decent groups, either with FMJ or duty ammo.</p>
<p>Well it seems that Gregory Grutter, S&#038;W&#8217;s Chief Firearms Instructor, happened to overhear these vociferous complaints, so Grutter asked to test-fire the M&#038;P 45 pistol. Grutter put a couple of his business cards up at 15 yards, then shot one with Winchester Ranger SXT and the other with Winchester White Box ammo. Grutter&#8217;s best group was about half an inch, measured with OnTarget. Check it out:</p>
<p><img src="https://accurateshooter.net/pix/smithcard1802.jpg" alt="Smith Wesson pistol accuracy Grutter M&#038;P 45 .45 ACP Winchester ammo"></p>
<p>We&#8217;re told that, after hearing the litany of complaints, Grutter walked over to the loud-mouthed grumbler and asked: &#8220;Hey Sir, can I shoot it?</p>
<p>&#8220;Have at it, I don’t want that POS back!&#8221; said Mr. Negative.</p>
<p>Kharma time baby&#8230; In Grutter&#8217;s hands the M&#038;P performed superbly. Here are Grutter&#8217;s two 5-shot groups, each shot at 15 yards with the .45 ACP Smith &#038; Wesson pistol. Pretty darn impressive:</p>
<p><img src="https://accurateshooter.net/pix/smithcard1803.jpg" alt="Smith Wesson pistol accuracy Grutter M&#038;P 45 .45 ACP Winchester ammo"></p>
<blockquote><p>After seeing this, the complainer asked: &#8220;Why did you shoot your cards &#8212; Ain’t got no targets?&#8221;</p>
<p>Grutter smiled and replied: &#8220;Nah&#8230; in case you or your officer want to learn how to shoot [this way] you will have the numbers to call.&#8221; Badda Bing!</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Sharpshooting S&amp;W Instructor Proves Arrogant Student Wrong</title>
		<link>https://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2023/02/sharpshooting-sw-instructor-proves-arrogant-student-wrong/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2023 06:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shown is the Smith &#038; Wesson M&#038;P 9mm model. The M&#038;P 45 is the same except for chambering. You&#8217;ll hear some shooters complain loudly about the (perceived) lack of accuracy of their handguns. Well, sometimes the problem IS the gun, but other times the problem is &#8220;driver error&#8221;. At the range, we often hear guys [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="https://accurateshooter.net/pix/smithcard1800.jpg" alt="Smith Wesson pistol accuracy Grutter M&#038;P 45 .45 ACP Winchester ammo"><br />
<i>Shown is the Smith &#038; Wesson M&#038;P 9mm model. The M&#038;P 45 is the same except for chambering.</i></p>
<p>You&#8217;ll hear some shooters complain loudly about the (perceived) lack of accuracy of their handguns. Well, sometimes the problem IS the gun, but other times the problem is &#8220;driver error&#8221;. At the range, we often hear guys blame their gun for poor accuracy, when in fact the real problem is lack of operator skill. This saga, posted a while back on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100008171890594" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, is a case in point.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the story. A gentleman attending an armorer&#8217;s course at Smith &#038; Wesson was loudly dissing a S&#038;W M&#038;P 45, claiming it could not shoot. Very loudly he tells the instructor, &#8220;the M&#038;P 45 one of our officers is carrying is sh*t&#8221;. He then trash-talks the gun, saying that both he and his officer couldn’t get the gun to shoot decent groups, either with FMJ or duty ammo.</p>
<p>Well it seems that Gregory Grutter, S&#038;W&#8217;s Chief Firearms Instructor, happened to overhear these vociferous complaints, so Grutter asked to test-fire the M&#038;P 45 pistol. Grutter put a couple of his business cards up at 15 yards, then shot one with Winchester Ranger SXT and the other with Winchester White Box ammo. Grutter&#8217;s best group was about half an inch, measured with OnTarget. Check it out:</p>
<p><img src="https://accurateshooter.net/pix/smithcard1802.jpg" alt="Smith Wesson pistol accuracy Grutter M&#038;P 45 .45 ACP Winchester ammo"></p>
<p>We&#8217;re told that, after hearing the litany of complaints, Grutter walked over to the loud-mouthed grumbler and asked: &#8220;Hey Sir, can I shoot it?</p>
<p>&#8220;Have at it, I don’t want that POS back!&#8221; said Mr. Negative.</p>
<p>Kharma time baby&#8230; In Grutter&#8217;s hands the M&#038;P performed superbly. Here are Grutter&#8217;s two 5-shot groups, each shot at 15 yards with the .45 ACP Smith &#038; Wesson pistol. Pretty darn impressive:</p>
<p><img src="https://accurateshooter.net/pix/smithcard1803.jpg" alt="Smith Wesson pistol accuracy Grutter M&#038;P 45 .45 ACP Winchester ammo"></p>
<blockquote><p>After seeing this, the complainer asked: &#8220;Why did you shoot your cards &#8212; Ain’t got no targets?&#8221;</p>
<p>Grutter smiled and replied: &#8220;Nah&#8230; in case you or your officer want to learn how to shoot [this way] you will have the numbers to call.&#8221; Badda Bing!</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Pistol Instructor Offers Critic A Slice of Humble Pie</title>
		<link>https://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2019/04/pistol-instructor-offers-critic-slice-of-humble-pie/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Apr 2019 07:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shown is the Smith &#038; Wesson M&#038;P 9mm model. The M&#038;P 45 is the same except for chambering. You&#8217;ll hear some shooters complain loudly about the (perceived) lack of accuracy of their handguns. Well, sometimes the problem IS the gun, but other times the problem is &#8220;driver error&#8221;. At the range, we often hear guys [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://accurateshooter.net/pix/smithcard1800.jpg" alt="Smith Wesson pistol accuracy Grutter M&#038;P 45 .45 ACP Winchester ammo"><br />
<i>Shown is the Smith &#038; Wesson M&#038;P 9mm model. The M&#038;P 45 is the same except for chambering.</i></p>
<p>You&#8217;ll hear some shooters complain loudly about the (perceived) lack of accuracy of their handguns. Well, sometimes the problem IS the gun, but other times the problem is &#8220;driver error&#8221;. At the range, we often hear guys blame their gun for poor accuracy, when in fact the real problem is lack of operator skill. This saga, posted recently on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100008171890594" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, is a case in point.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the story. A gentleman attending an armorer&#8217;s course at Smith &#038; Wesson was loudly dissing a S&#038;W M&#038;P 45, claiming it could not shoot. Very loudly he tells the instructor, &#8220;the M&#038;P 45 one of our officers is carrying is sh*t&#8221;. He then trash-talks the gun, saying that both he and his officer couldn’t get the gun to shoot decent groups, either with FMJ or duty ammo.</p>
<p>Well it seems that Gregory Grutter, S&#038;W&#8217;s Chief Firearms Instructor, happened to overhear these vociferous complaints, so Grutter asked to test-fire the M&#038;P 45 pistol. Grutter put a couple of his business cards up at 15 yards, then shot one with Winchester Ranger SXT and the other with Winchester White Box ammo. Grutter&#8217;s best group was about half an inch, measured with OnTarget. Check it out:</p>
<p><img src="http://accurateshooter.net/pix/smithcard1802.jpg" alt="Smith Wesson pistol accuracy Grutter M&#038;P 45 .45 ACP Winchester ammo"></p>
<p>We&#8217;re told that, after hearing the litany of complaints, Grutter walked over to the loud-mouthed grumbler and asked: &#8220;Hey Sir, can I shoot it?</p>
<p>&#8220;Have at it, I don’t want that POS back!&#8221; said Mr. Negative.</p>
<p>Kharma time baby&#8230; In Grutter&#8217;s hands the M&#038;P performed superbly. Here are Grutter&#8217;s two 5-shot groups, each shot at 15 yards with the .45 ACP Smith &#038; Wesson pistol. Pretty darn impressive:</p>
<p><img src="http://accurateshooter.net/pix/smithcard1803.jpg" alt="Smith Wesson pistol accuracy Grutter M&#038;P 45 .45 ACP Winchester ammo"></p>
<blockquote><p>After seeing this, the complainer asked: &#8220;Why did you shoot your cards &#8212; Ain’t got no targets?&#8221;</p>
<p>Grutter smiled and replied: &#8220;Nah&#8230; in case you or your officer want to learn how to shoot [this way] you will have the numbers to call.&#8221; Badda Bing!</p></blockquote>
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