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		<title>Use Tall Target Test to Verify Your Scope&#8217;s True Click Values</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jan 2025 06:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have you recently purchased a new scope? Then you should verify the actual click value of the turrets before you use the optic in competition (or on a long-range hunt). While a scope may have listed click values of 1/4-MOA, 1/8-MOA or 0.1 Mils, the reality may be slightly different. Many scopes have actual click [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>Have you recently purchased a new scope? Then you should verify the actual click value of the turrets before you use the optic in competition (or on a long-range hunt). While a scope may have listed click values of 1/4-MOA, 1/8-MOA or 0.1 Mils, the reality may be slightly different. Many scopes have actual click values that are slightly higher or lower than the value claimed by the manufacturer. The small variance adds up when you click through a wide range of elevation.</p>
<p><iframe width="600" height="340" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/12Wf0Cuwwi8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe></p>
<p>In this video, Bryan Litz of <a href="https://appliedballisticsllc.com" target="_blank">Applied Ballistics</a> shows how to verify your true click values using a &#8220;Tall Target Test&#8221;. The idea is to start at the bottom end of a vertical line, and then click up 30 MOA or so. Multiply the number of clicked MOA by 1.047 to get the claimed value in inches. For example, at 100 yards, 30 MOA is exactly 31.41 inches. Then measure the difference in your actual point of impact. If, for example, your point of impact is 33 inches, then you are getting more than the stated MOA with each click (assuming the target is positioned at exactly 100 yards).</p>
<p><img src="https://accurateshooter.net/Blog/talltest02op.png" alt="Scope Click Verify Elevation Tall Target Bryan Litz NSSF test turret MOA MIL"></p>
<p><b>How to Perform the Tall Target Test</b><br />
The objective of the tall target test is to insure that your scope is giving you the proper amount of adjustment. For example, when you dial 30 MOA, are you really getting 30 MOA, or are you getting 28.5 or 31.2 MOA? The only way to be sure is to verify, don’t take it for granted! Knowing your scopes true click values insures that you can accurately apply a ballistic solution. In fact, many perceived inaccuracies of long range ballistics solutions are actually caused by the scopes not applying the intended adjustment. In order to verify your scope&#8217;s true movement and calculate a correction factor, follow the steps in the <a href="https://accurateshooter.net/Blog/talltargetworksheet01.pdf" target='_blank'>Tall Target Worksheet</a>. This worksheet takes you thru the ‘calibration process’ including measuring true range to target and actual POI shift for a given scope adjustment. The goal is to calculate a correction factor that you can apply to a ballistic solution which accounts for the tracking error of your scope. For example, if you find your scope moves 7% more than it should, then you have to apply 7% less than the ballistic solution calls for to hit your target.</p>
<p><center><br />
<h2><a href="https://accurateshooter.net/Blog/talltargetworksheet01.pdf" target='_blank'>CLICK HERE to DOWNLOAD Tall Target Worksheet (PDF) &#187;</a></h2>
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<p>NOTE: When doing this test, don&#8217;t go for the maximum possible elevation. You don&#8217;t want to max out the elevation knob, running it to the top stop. Bryan Litz explains: &#8220;It’s good to avoid the extremes of adjustment when doing the tall target test.I don’t know how much different the clicks would be at the edges, but they’re not the same.&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p><b>Should You Perform a WIDE Target Test Too?</b><br />
What about testing your windage clicks the same way, with a <strong>WIDE target test</strong>? Bryan Litz says that&#8217;s not really necessary: &#8220;The wide target test isn’t as important for a couple reasons. First, you typically don’t dial nearly as much wind as you do elevation. Second, your dialed windage is a guess to begin with; a moving average that’s different for every shot. Whereas you stand to gain a lot by nailing vertical down to the click, the same is not true of windage. If there’s a 5% error in your scope&#8217;s windage tracking, you’d never know it.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><img class="alignright" width="250" hspace="6" src="https://accurateshooter.net/Blog/tallscopetest03.jpg" alt="Scope Tall Test level calibration"><b>Verifying Scope Level With Tall Target Test</b><br />
Bryan says: &#8220;While setting up your Tall Target Test, you should also verify that your scope level is mounted and aligned properly. This is critical to insuring that you’ll have a long range horizontal zero when you dial on a bunch of elevation for long range shots. This is a requirement for all kinds of long range shooting. Without a properly-mounted scope level (verified on a Tall Target), you really can’t guarantee your horizontal zero at long range.&#8221; </p>
<p>NOTE: For &#8216;known-distance&#8217; competition, this is the only mandatory part of the tall target test, since slight variations in elevation click-values are not that important once you&#8217;re centered &#8220;on target&#8221; at a known distance.</p>
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		<title>U.S. Optics Introduces New Foundation Series Scopes for 2020</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Dec 2019 19:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you&#8217;re looking for a state-of-the-art scope with a 34mm main tube, consider the new Foundation Series™ riflescopes from U.S. Optics. There are four new models, three zooms (1.8-10x42mm, 3.2-17x50mm, 5-25x52mm) plus a 10X fixed power. These look impressive. Check out the features of the FDN 25X 5-25x52mm ($3449) below. There are so many options! [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>If you&#8217;re looking for a state-of-the-art scope with a 34mm main tube, consider the new <a href="https://www.usoptics.com/foundation-series/" target="_blank">Foundation Series™</a> riflescopes from <a href="https://www.usoptics.com/foundation-series/" target="_blank">U.S. Optics</a>. There are four new models, three zooms (1.8-10x42mm, 3.2-17x50mm, 5-25x52mm) plus a 10X fixed power. These look impressive. Check out the features of the FDN 25X 5-25x52mm ($3449) below. There are so many options! Chose among 11 different reticle types, and three illumination colors (Red, Blue, Green). Get a black Anodized finish or order any one of 8 Cerakote colors. For Elevation adjustment, choose a 1/10 MIL knob or 6.5 Creedmoor, or .308 Win BDC knobs. The Rapid Focus Eyepiece is even available with optional internal level.</p>
<p>This all represents serious optics technology. But you&#8217;ll pay for it. MSRP on the FDN 25X starts at $3449.00.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.usoptics.com/product/fdn-25x/" target="_blank"><img src="https://accurateshooter.net/pix/usofnd1902op.png" alt="U.S. Optics Foundation Series Scopes 34mm milrad MIL FFP SFP"></a></p>
<p>The Foundation Series is machined from aircraft-grade 6061-T6 aluminum and features a low profile ER3K elevation knob with a Zero Stop, capped US#1 windage knob, adjustable integrated parallax and illumination knob, rapid adjustable 180° magnification throw, and customizable options.</p>
<p><strong><big>Foundation Series Models:</p>
<p>FDN FX10 10x42mm ($1999) | FDN 10X 1.8-10x42mm ($2499)<br />
FDN 17X 3.2-17x50mm ($2899) | FDN 25X 5-25x52mm ($3449)</big></strong></p>
<p><a href="https://www.usoptics.com/foundation-series/" target="_blank"><img src="https://accurateshooter.net/pix/usofnd1904op.png" alt="U.S. Optics Foundation Series Scopes 34mm milrad MIL FFP SFP"></a></p>
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<p>• Durable, Dependable, and Ergonomic ER3K Elevation Knob with Zero Stop<br />
• Double Stacked 1/10 MIL or ¼ IPHY marks for use across first and second revolutions<br />
• Redesigned Capped US#1 Windage Knob<br />
• 34mm tube across the entire Foundation Series™ line<br />
• Integrated Parallax and Push Button Illumination Control<br />
• Type III Black Hard Anodized Finished or Customizable Cerakote™ Finish<br />
• Waterproof and Shockproof<br />
• 180° Magnification Throw</p>
<p>The Foundation Series will replace U.S. Optics&#8217; current B-series optics. All Foundation Series models will be available in Q1 2020. Order direct from the <a href="https://www.usoptics.com/foundation-series/" target="_blank">U.S. Optics website</a> or from authorized dealers. NOTE: All open B-Series sales orders are eligible for a free upgrade to the equivalent Foundation Series model.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.usoptics.com/foundation-series/" target="_blank"><img src="https://accurateshooter.net/pix/usofnd1903.jpg" alt="U.S. Optics Foundation Series Scopes 34mm milrad MIL FFP SFP"></a></p>
<blockquote><p>U.S Optics President Pat Harrigan was proud to announce the new Made-in-USA Foundation Series riflescopes: &#8220;We&#8217;re incredibly excited to release a new optics series that defines the core of U.S. Optics’ mission, our Foundation &#8212; smart and intuitive design, unparalleled quality and durability, and commitment to domestic manufacturing.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Tall Target Test &#8212; How to Verify Your Scope&#8217;s True Click Values</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Mar 2019 08:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have you recently purchased a new scope? Then you should verify the actual click value of the turrets before you use the optic in competition (or on a long-range hunt). While a scope may have listed click values of 1/4-MOA, 1/8-MOA or 0.1 Mils, the reality may be slightly different. Many scopes have actual click [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>Have you recently purchased a new scope? Then you should verify the actual click value of the turrets before you use the optic in competition (or on a long-range hunt). While a scope may have listed click values of 1/4-MOA, 1/8-MOA or 0.1 Mils, the reality may be slightly different. Many scopes have actual click values that are slightly higher or lower than the value claimed by the manufacturer. The small variance adds up when you click through a wide range of elevation.</p>
<p><iframe width="600" height="340" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/12Wf0Cuwwi8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe></p>
<p>In this video, Bryan Litz of <a href="http://appliedballisticsllc.com" target="_blank">Applied Ballistics</a> shows how to verify your true click values using a &#8220;Tall Target Test&#8221;. The idea is to start at the bottom end of a vertical line, and then click up 30 MOA or so. Multiply the number of clicked MOA by 1.047 to get the claimed value in inches. For example, at 100 yards, 30 MOA is exactly 31.41 inches. Then measure the difference in your actual point of impact. If, for example, your point of impact is 33 inches, then you are getting more than the stated MOA with each click (assuming the target is positioned at exactly 100 yards).</p>
<p><img src="http://accurateshooter.net/Blog/talltest02op.png" alt="Scope Click Verify Elevation Tall Target Bryan Litz NSSF test turret MOA MIL"></p>
<p><b>How to Perform the Tall Target Test</b><br />
The objective of the tall target test is to insure that your scope is giving you the proper amount of adjustment. For example, when you dial 30 MOA, are you really getting 30 MOA, or are you getting 28.5 or 31.2 MOA? The only way to be sure is to verify, don’t take it for granted! Knowing your scopes true click values insures that you can accurately apply a ballistic solution. In fact, many perceived inaccuracies of long range ballistics solutions are actually caused by the scopes not applying the intended adjustment. In order to verify your scope&#8217;s true movement and calculate a correction factor, follow the steps in the <a href="http://accurateshooter.net/Blog/talltargetworksheet01.pdf" target='_blank'>Tall Target Worksheet</a>. This worksheet takes you thru the ‘calibration process’ including measuring true range to target and actual POI shift for a given scope adjustment. The goal is to calculate a correction factor that you can apply to a ballistic solution which accounts for the tracking error of your scope. For example, if you find your scope moves 7% more than it should, then you have to apply 7% less than the ballistic solution calls for to hit your target.</p>
<p><center><br />
<h2><a href="http://accurateshooter.net/Blog/talltargetworksheet01.pdf" target='_blank'>CLICK HERE to DOWNLOAD Tall Target Worksheet (PDF) &#187;</a></h2>
<p></center></p>
<p>NOTE: When doing this test, don&#8217;t go for the maximum possible elevation. You don&#8217;t want to max out the elevation knob, running it to the top stop. Bryan Litz explains: &#8220;It’s good to avoid the extremes of adjustment when doing the tall target test.I don’t know how much different the clicks would be at the edges, but they’re not the same.&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p><b>Should You Perform a WIDE Target Test Too?</b><br />
What about testing your windage clicks the same way, with a <strong>WIDE target test</strong>? Bryan Litz says that&#8217;s not really necessary: &#8220;The wide target test isn’t as important for a couple reasons. First, you typically don’t dial nearly as much wind as you do elevation. Second, your dialed windage is a guess to begin with; a moving average that’s different for every shot. Whereas you stand to gain a lot by nailing vertical down to the click, the same is not true of windage. If there’s a 5% error in your scope&#8217;s windage tracking, you’d never know it.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><img class="alignright" width="250" hspace="6" src="http://accurateshooter.net/Blog/tallscopetest03.jpg" alt="Scope Tall Test level calibration"><b>Verifying Scope Level With Tall Target Test</b><br />
Bryan says: &#8220;While setting up your Tall Target Test, you should also verify that your scope level is mounted and aligned properly. This is critical to insuring that you’ll have a long range horizontal zero when you dial on a bunch of elevation for long range shots. This is a requirement for all kinds of long range shooting. Without a properly-mounted scope level (verified on a Tall Target), you really can’t guarantee your horizontal zero at long range.&#8221; </p>
<p>NOTE: For ‘known-distance’ competition, this is the only mandatory part of the tall target test, since slight variations in elevation click-values are not that important once you&#8217;re centered &#8220;on target&#8221; at a known distance.</p>
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		<title>Zeiss Offers &#8220;Tax Refund Days&#8221; Promo on Conquest V4 Scopes</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2018 15:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#8217;s a good deal if you are looking for a new optic for your hunting or match rifle. For the next month, April 15 through May 15, 2018, Zeiss is running a great promotion on its latest Conquest V4 optics line. The Zeiss annual “Tax Refund Days” promotion cover the entire Conquest V4 family of [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>Here&#8217;s a good deal if you are looking for a new optic for your hunting or match rifle. For the next month, April 15 through May 15, 2018, Zeiss is running a great promotion on its latest Conquest V4 optics line. The Zeiss annual “Tax Refund Days” promotion cover the entire Conquest V4 family of riflescopes. These are 1-4x24mm, 3-12x56mm, 4-16x44mm, and 6-24&#215;50 models, which range from $799.99 &#8211; $1199.99 MSRP. Purchase any of these Conquest V4s and receive a $100.00 immediate in-store accessory credit at time of purchase. Take advantage of this promotion through participating Zeiss Authorized Sports Optics retailers throughout the United States. This applies to online purchases as well &#8212; you just apply the $100.00 credit to other products the online seller offers.</p>
<p>“The Conquest V4 riflescopes are getting lots of attention and praise” says Barton Dobbs, Director of Sales for Carl Zeiss SBE, LLC Sports Optics.  “We listened to our customers as to what they want and demand from a scope in this price category, and we enjoy hearing how much these customers like the modern features and the high level of performance the V4’s provide.” NOTE: Quantities are limited. To locate a participating retailer, or to find out more about Zeiss products,  visit <a href="http://www.zeiss.com/us/sports-optics" target="_blank">Zeiss Sports Optics</a>.</p>
<p><img src="http://accurateshooter.net/pix/zeisspromo1802.jpg" alt="Zeiss Sports Optics Conquest V4 Tax Refund Promotion Discount saving"></p>
<blockquote><p><b>Positive Feedback from Canadian Customers on Zeiss Conquest V4 Riflescopes</b><br />
<a href="http://www.PrecisionOptics.net" target="_blank">Precision Optics</a>, a Canadian scope vendor, says buyers been very pleased with Conquest V4 scopes: &#8220;We have placed a LOT of the Conquest V4 and V6 riflescopes recently and can report overwhelmingly positive feedback.&#8221;</p>
<p>Accoring to Precision Optics, customers who have field-tested Conquest V4 scopes have consistently reported the following:</p>
<p>The scopes are lighter than expected, considering they have a 30mm tube and are very robust.</p>
<p>The optical performance is outstanding, and compares directly with the Zeiss Victory products, and indeed the Conquest V4/V6 products utilize the same coatings. Users report that &#8230; the V4 glass is clearer and brighter than Nightforce SHV/NXS products.</p>
<p>The V4 and V6 turrets track and are repeatable. Customers have run side-by-side tests and report that the V4/V6 scopes track just accurately as a Nightforce NXS[.]
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		<title>Schmidt &amp; Bender 5-25&#215;56 PM II 2FP Scope Review</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2017 07:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Schmidt &#038; Bender 5-25×56mm PM II SFP Review Test conducted by RifleShooter.com For police and military use, the Schmidt &#038; Bender PM II (Police Marksman) is the gold standard of extreme use rifle optics. Other high end scopes aspire to the PM II&#8217;s level of durability, optical clarity, repeatability, and performance. With our assistance, RifleShooter.com [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p><strong>Schmidt &#038; Bender 5-25×56mm PM II SFP Review</strong><br />
<em>Test conducted by <a href="http://rifleshooter.com" target='_blank'>RifleShooter.com</a></em><br />
For police and military use, the <a href="http://www.schmidtundbender.de/en/products/police-and-military-forces.html" target="_blank">Schmidt &#038; Bender PM II</a> (Police Marksman) is the gold standard of extreme use rifle optics. Other high end scopes aspire to the PM II&#8217;s level of durability, optical clarity, repeatability, and performance. With our assistance, <a href="http://rifleshooter.com" target='_blank'>RifleShooter.com</a> recently conducted an in-depth test of <a href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=ale&#038;ti=7795&#038;pri=0&#038;pw=164303&#038;mi=10077&#038;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Fmanufacturers%2FSCHMIDT%252bzzxzz%252bBENDER%2Findex.htm" target="blank">Schmidt &#038; Bender&#8217;s 5-25&#215;56 PM II</a>, Second Focal Plane (SFP) version. Here are the results&#8230;</p>
<h2><a href="http://www.accurateshooter.com/gear-reviews/schmidt-bender-5-25x56-pm-ii-sfp-review/" target="_blank">&#187; READ FULL 5-25x56mm PM II Scope Review (LONGER VERSION)</a></h2>
<p><img src="http://accurateshooter.net/pix/sb525002.jpg" alt="Schmidt Bender 5-25x56mm Second Focal Plane MOA riflescope scope Rifleshooter field text box gear review"></p>
<p>The test scope is a 5-25×56 PM II (SKU: 677-911-995-A8-A2) with a <strong>Second Focal Plane (SFP) P4FL2-MOA reticle</strong>; double-turn elevation with rotation indicator; single turn windage; 1/4-MOA click values; illuminated reticle; and side adjustable parallax from 10 meters to infinity. This is an impressive beast &#8212; a big, sturdy, well-made optic.</p>
<p>Schmidt &#038; Bender scopes have sophisticated features and a wide array of available options. The many options and features of the 5-26x56mm PM II are explained in this Schmidt &#038; Bender video:</p>
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<p><strong>Second Focal Plane (SFP) Reticles</strong><br />
The Second Focal Plane (SFP) reticle design works well for long-range target shooters, benchrest shooters, hunters, and law enforcement. Often, SFP reticles are associated with Minute of Angle/MOA-based reticles. For target shooters who like to dial-in the elevation corrections, frequently SFP is the preferred reticle type. Also, these reticles are offered with thinner lines and markings to aid in target shooting, by not covering up as much of the target area, which is absolutely necessary in such cases as F-Class and Benchrest shooting. With a SFP reticle the size/width of the reticle lines stay constant at all magnifications.</p>
<h2>Tall Target and Box Tests</h2>
<p><em>Commentary by Rifleshooter.com Editor</em><br />
To get an idea of how the PM II tracked I wanted to conduct a tall target and box test. I set up a couple of ISPC targets at 100 yards (below).</p>
<p><img src="http://accurateshooter.net/pix/sb525012.jpg" alt="Schmidt Bender 5-25x56mm Second Focal Plane MOA riflescope scope Rifleshooter field text box gear review"></p>
<p>The target on the left is for the tall <strong>ladder test</strong>, the target at the right is for the box test.</p>
<p>With the scope zeroed* I set up a tall target test at 100 yards. I placed a 1&#8243; orange dot on a pair of targets (above, left). We then used a four foot level to draw a plum line moving up from the dot and fired the three shot group below.</p>
<p><img src="http://accurateshooter.net/pix/sb525013.jpg" alt="Schmidt Bender 5-25x56mm Second Focal Plane MOA riflescope scope Rifleshooter field text box gear review"></p>
<p>I dialed 30 MOA of elevation on the scope and fired another group. Measuring the distance between the two groups, would indicate how well the scope is tracking.</p>
<p><img src="http://accurateshooter.net/pix/sb525014.jpg" alt="Schmidt Bender 5-25x56mm Second Focal Plane MOA riflescope scope Rifleshooter field text box gear review"></p>
<p>Since 1 MOA is 1.047&#8243; at 100 yards, 30 MOA would be 31.41&#8243; (30 x 1.047&#8243; = 31.41&#8243;), looking at my tape measure, everything checked out (above).</p>
<p>Next I conducted a quick <strong>box test</strong> and set up an IPSC target with a orange paster at 100 yards. To do this I first Fired one round with the scope zeroed, then&#8230;</p>
<p>Dialed 6 MOA left, fired one round<br />
Dialed 15 MOA up, fired one round<br />
Dialed 6 MOA right, fired one round<br />
Dialed 6 MOA right, fired one round<br />
Dialed 15 MOA down, fired one round<br />
Dialed 6 MOA left and fired one round</p>
<p>After this, you want to see two holes close to each other on the first target, as well as the correct spacing dialed in between each hole, so how did the PM II do?</p>
<p><img src="http://accurateshooter.net/pix/sb525015.jpg" alt="Schmidt Bender 5-25x56mm Second Focal Plane MOA riflescope scope Rifleshooter field text box gear review"></p>
<p>Well, it worked like a champ! The rest of my time with the PM II has been equally impressive.</p>
<h3>SUMMARY &#8212; Our Assessment of the 5-25&#215;56 PM II</h3>
<p><font size = "2">Here are our key conclusions from testing the <a href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=ale&#038;ti=7795&#038;pri=0&#038;pw=164303&#038;mi=10077&#038;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Fmanufacturers%2FSCHMIDT%252bzzxzz%252bBENDER%2Findex.htm" target="_blank">Schmidt &#038; Bender PM II 5-25×56 SFP</a>:</p>
<p>&#8212; It’s a lot of scope. The PM II is pretty much the best scope you’ll be able to buy anywhere in the world. There is a reason they are in such widespread Military and Law Enforcement use, it has earned its reputation.</p>
<p>&#8212; Great zero stop. The PM II has the easiest-to-adjust turret and zero stop system I have ever used. On the PM II, Schmidt &#038; Bender&#8217;s exclusive &#8220;Sub Zero Stop&#8221; system allows <strong>movement below zero</strong>. On the test scope it was 1.75 MOA. This is a great feature if you switch ammunition or elevation and need to bump your zero down. </p>
<p>&#8212; Tracks well. This was to be expected with its widespread use by military units throughout the world.</p>
<p>&#8212; Crisp, precise adjustments. The tactile feel of the knobs is exceptional.</li>
<p>&#8212; Crystal clear glass. Great light transmission and reticle.</font></p>
<p>This Schmidt &#038; Bender catalog page shows reticle options for the 5-25×56 PM II:</p>
<p><a href="http://accurateshooter.net/pix/sb525003big.png" target="_blank"><img border="0" src="http://accurateshooter.net/pix/sb525003op.png" alt="Schmidt Bender 5-25x56mm Second Focal Plane MOA riflescope scope Rifleshooter field text box gear review"></a><br />
<i>Click image to zoom</i></p>
<h2>Turrets and Controls &#8212; How They Work</h3>
<p>On the right side of the optic, you’ll notice a .250 MOA single-turn windage adjustment knob. On the top you’ll note the .250 MOA elevation adjustments. The tactile feel of each “click” is impressive &#8212; crisp and precise. A large parallax knob is located on the left side of the turret. The smaller knob located closer to the eyepiece is the adjustment knob for the illuminated reticle.</p>
<p><img src="http://accurateshooter.net/pix/sb525007.jpg" alt="Schmidt Bender 5-25x56mm Second Focal Plane MOA riflescope scope Rifleshooter field text box gear review"></p>
<p><img src="http://accurateshooter.net/pix/sb525008.jpg" alt="Schmidt Bender 5-25x56mm Second Focal Plane MOA riflescope scope Rifleshooter field text box gear review"></p>
<p>Here the view from behind the scope. Note the DT (double turn) elevation turret. At its current setting in the photo above, it is still on the first revolution (.250 MOA below 0) and as adjustments within the first revolution are made, you’d read the white numbers. During the second revolution, the windows in the top of the turret turn yellow, as shown below.</p>
<p><img src="http://accurateshooter.net/pix/sb525009.jpg" alt="Schmidt Bender 5-25x56mm Second Focal Plane MOA riflescope scope Rifleshooter field text box gear review"></p>
<p><b>Test Rifle &#8212; .300 Win Mag in Accuracy International AICS AX Chassis</b><br />
For testing and evaluation purposes I mounted the PM II in Spuhr ISMS mount on a custom made .300 Winchester Magnum rifle. Testing was done with handloaded ammo: Sierra’s 195-grain Tipped MatchKings over Norma brass and Hodgdon H4831SC powder.</p>
<p>This is the test rifle I used. It was built primarily with parts from <a href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=ale&#038;ti=7795&#038;pri=0&#038;pw=164303&#038;mi=10077&#038;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2F" target="_blank">Brownells</a>.</p>
<p><img src="http://accurateshooter.net/pix/sb525016.jpg" alt="Schmidt Bender 5-25x56mm Second Focal Plane MOA riflescope scope Rifleshooter field text box gear review"></p>
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<li><a href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=ale&#038;ti=7795&#038;pri=0&#038;pw=164303&#038;mi=10077&#038;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Frifle-parts%2Freceiver-parts%2Freceivers%2Frifle-receivers%2Findex.htm%3Fdym%3Dy" target="_blank">Stiller action</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=ale&#038;ti=7795&#038;pri=0&#038;pw=164303&#038;mi=10077&#038;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Frifle-parts%2Fstock-parts%2Frifle-stocks%2Frem-700-300-win-mag-stage-2-ax-stock-chassis-prod75318.aspx%3Favs%257cManufacturer_1%3DACCURACY%252bINTERNATIONAL" target="_blank">Accuracy International AICS AX Chassis</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=ale&#038;ti=7795&#038;pri=0&#038;pw=164303&#038;mi=10077&#038;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Fgunsmith-tools-supplies%2Fbarrel-tools%2Fbarrel-blanks%2Fselect-match-barrel-prod12416.aspx" target="_blank">Shilen Select Match barrel, #7 1:10&#8243; twist</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=ale&#038;ti=7795&#038;pri=0&#038;pw=164303&#038;mi=10077&#038;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Frifle-parts%2Fmuzzle-devices%2Fcompensators-amp-muzzle-brakes%2Ffte-muzzle-brake-20-caliber-prod53473.aspx" target="_blank">Badger Ordnance FTE brake</a></li>
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<li><a href="http://www.brownells.com/optics-mounting/rings-mounts-amp-bases/mount-sets/picatinny-mounts-prod54837.aspx" target="_blank">Spuhr ISMS mount</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=ale&#038;ti=7795&#038;pri=0&#038;pw=164303&#038;mi=10077&#038;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Frifle-parts%2Ftriggers-parts%2Ftriggers%2Fremington-700-40x-win-m70-rifle-triggers-prod27104.aspx" target="_blank">Jewel HVR trigger</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=ale&#038;ti=7795&#038;pri=0&#038;pw=164303&#038;mi=10077&#038;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Foptics-mounting%2Felectronic-sights%2Fred-dot-sights%2Fmicro-t-1-red-dot-sight-prod73327.aspx" target="_blank">Aimpoint T1 micro sight</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=ale&#038;ti=7795&#038;pri=0&#038;pw=164303&#038;mi=10077&#038;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2Fshooting-accessories%2Fbipods-monopods-amp-accessories%2Fbipods%2Fsierra-7-bipod-picatinny-mount-prod58179.aspx" target="_blank">Sierra 7 bipod</a></li>
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<p>Here is the Schmidt &#038; Bender 5-25x56mm PM II SFP (foreground) alongside three other S&#038;B products:<br />5-25&#215;56 PM II FFP (Desert Tan), 12-50&#215;56 PM II, 3-20&#215;50 PM II</p>
<p><img src="http://accurateshooter.net/pix/sb525005b.jpg" alt="Schmidt Bender 5-25x56mm Second Focal Plane MOA riflescope scope Rifleshooter field text box gear review"></p>
<blockquote><p><b>Better Pricing, Better Warranty, Better Availabilty</b><br />
In addition to increased production and availability, Schmidt and Bender has reduced retail pricing on PMII models 14-19% depending on the model. S&#038;B Marketing Director Kyle Brown commented, “S&#038;B improved its warranty in the USA for 2017, and now offers a USA 20-Year Transferable Limited Warranty. We have reduced our pricing to be competitive; and have greatly increased our on-hand inventory levels to supply our customers with complete and on-time deliveries.&#8221;</p>
<p>Schmidt &#038; Bender has made an effort to support the Precision Rifle Series (PRS). Brown said “for 2017 we have made a very hard push to become more active in PRS with our brand and with our products.”.</p></blockquote>
<p>To learn more about Schmidt &#038; Bender optics, <a href="http://www.schmidtundbender.de/en/products.html" target="_blank">CLICK HERE</a>.</p>
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* Zeroing Process for PM II: The zero stop and turret settings are controlled by set screws. Zeroing is a breeze. You don’t have to move caps, insert shims, move clutch mechanisms, and so on. Simply loosen the screws, swing the turret back to “0” and you are all set. To establish a 100-yard zero, I hung a target at 50 yards, fired one round, dialed a correction, fired a confirmation shot and moved back to 100 yards. I fired one round at 100, made a correction and was zeroed. That’s it, three rounds, done.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Need a high-magnification scope for long-range competition? Among quality scopes with 40+ power, we think the Sightron SIII 10-50x60mm scope may be the best value on the market right now. For a limited time, these scopes are available through Amazon.com for under $980.00. That&#8217;s less than half the price of a Leupold 7-42x56mm VX-6, and [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>Need a high-magnification scope for long-range competition? Among quality scopes with 40+ power, we think the <a href="http://amzn.to/2BNGJxt" target="_blank">Sightron SIII 10-50x60mm scope</a> may be the best value on the market right now. For a limited time, these scopes are available through Amazon.com for under $980.00. That&#8217;s less than half the price of a Leupold 7-42x56mm VX-6, and about 42% of the cost of a Nightforce 15-55X competition model. The Sightron is a good product with a <a href="http://info.sightron.com/warranty.php" target="_blank">lifetime manufacturer&#8217;s warranty</a>.</p>
<p><center><font size="3"><strong>Half the Cost of Leupold 7-42x56mm<br />
Proceeds from Each Sale Help Support Shooter&#8217;s Forum</strong></font></center></p>
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<p>NOTE: There are a variety of reticle options and both 1/4-MOA and 1/8-MOA click versions are offered. Read the product description carefully when ordering to be sure you&#8217;ve selected your preferred reticle type and click value.</p>
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<p><b>Less than Half the Cost of New 34mm 10-50x60mm Sightron</b><br />
Sightron&#8217;s SIII series 10-50x60mm riflescopes have a 30mm maintube. NOTE: Sightron has announced a new &#8220;SV&#8221; model 10-50x60mm scope with a 34mm maintube. The new <a href="https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&#038;field-keywords=sightron+svss" target="_blank">&#8220;SV&#8221; 10-50 scope</a> is nice, but it <strong>costs $1999.99</strong>! That&#8217;s more than DOUBLE the cost of the 30mm-tube 10-50X SIIIs featured here. Think about it &#8212; the older 30mm SIII 10-50X offers way more bang for the buck.</p>
<blockquote><p><b>Proceeds from Scope Sales Help Our Shooters&#8217;s Forum</b><br />
When you purchase one of these Sightrons from Amazon, you can improve your long-range capabilities while helping our Shooters&#8217; Forum. For every scope sold, Amazon provides roughly $50.00 to this site. All scope sale commissions will go to provide <strong>IT and tech support</strong> for our Shooters&#8217; Forum. You don&#8217;t pay a penny extra &#8212; you pay the same price as any other Amazon customer. But because the sale originated here, Amazon pays a commission. So you can get a great deal, while helping the Forum at the same time.
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<p>Editor&#8217;s Comments: <em>Here&#8217;s our take on this scope. For long-range benchrest and F-Class, it is one of the best options if you can&#8217;t swing $2000-$2500 for a Leupold, March, or Nightforce. We&#8217;ve used the 10-50X SIII Sightron in competition, and it&#8217;s plenty good enough to win matches. The glass is sharp and the clicks are reliable. Anything better (in this class) is going to cost you a LOT more.</em></p>
<p><b>Sightron SIII 10-50x60mm Unboxing Video (Mil-Dot version shown):</b><br />
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