New Remington 700 High-Velocity ‘Ultimate Muzzleloader’
Remington has just introduced an all-new series of “Ultimate Muzzleloaders” that promise to “raise the bar” for muzzle-loading performance. These rifles, based on Rem 700 actions, feature a new type of ignition system with a special breech plug and a primed, brass case. The magnum-primer-fitted ignition casing is pushed onto the breech plug by the bolt (see illustration below). This creates a tight gas seal for the magnum primer, allowing reliable ignition of up to 200 grains of powder. That translates to higher velocities and more energy.
Video Shows How New AMP Ignition System Works:
Remington reports: “The Ultimate Muzzleloader sets a new performance threshold with the use of a closed breech system that provides a cleaner and hotter ignition. The AMP (Accelerated Muzzleloader Performance) ignition system uses a uniquely-sized brass case with a Remington 9 ½ large magnum rifle primer that is push fed into the breech plug creating a gas seal in the flash hole of the primer (see cutaway below). The result allows the shooter to load up to 200 grains of powder for increased range, energy, and on-game performance.
Using 200 grains of Triple Seven® Pellets in combination with Barnes’ Spit-Fire T-EZTM 250-grain muzzleloader bullets, the Model 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader gives the shooter the ability to reach velocities over 2400 fps. [A 300gr bullet can travel 2200 fps with 3300 ft-lbs. of energy.]”
Remington claims its new system yields “centerfire-like performance and accuracy out of a muzzleloader” with “higher velocities, greater energy, and further effective range.” In addition, the primed casings are easier to handle in the field compared to small 209 shotshell primers. Spare primed cases can be stored in a compartment below the receiver (see below).
Two stocks are offered — a gray/brown laminated stock or a gray Bell & Carlson M40 fiberglass stock. Both versions come with a 26″ stainless barrel. On the laminated model the barrel is fitted with rifle sights front and rear. The Rem 700 muzzleloader features an adjustable X-Mark Pro trigger, factory-set at about 3.5 pounds pull weight.
| M700 Ultimate Muzzleloader – Synthetic 26-inch SS Fluted Barrel Bell & Carlson Medalist M40 Stock with Storage X-Mark Pro® Adjustable Trigger, 2.5-5 Pounds 24 Primed Cases and 24 Projectiles Ships in a Hard Case MSRP – $1295 |
M700 Ultimate Muzzleloader – Laminate 26-inch SS Fluted Barrel with Rifle Sights Laminate Stock with Primed Case Storage X-Mark Pro® Adjustable Trigger, 2.5-5 Pounds 24 Primed Cases and 24 Projectiles Ships in a Hard Case MSRP – $1295 |
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This is the Ultimate Muzzle loader technology that they purchased from:
http://ultimatefirearms.com/
Eddie beat me to it. I read about this in Precision Shooting (R.I.P) years ago.
The question I always had was – can you put a Jewell trigger in one of these?
250 grain bullet at 2400 fps. Wow, not your grandpa’s muzzle loader.
Oh. So this is what I’ve been doing for years now, except without the stupidity of black powder substitute recoil.
And to the above, yes, if you are nuts enough to do so, you can even drop in Arnold’s 2oz BR trigger.
Signed: Useless without smokeless.
Now wait and see what nutjob uses smokeless powder in one of these fine new pink elephants.
Sorry, it is not sufficiently “tacticool.”
Now this one, on the other hand….
http://ultimatefirearms.com/tacticalmodels.php
This thing is going to be brutal on both ends.
no thanks, 80 grains of black stuff is enough for me…
This seems pointless to me, why not make nearly the same design, but approved for smokeless powder? 200 grains of blackpowder is gonna WALLOP the shooter, and they don’t even have a brake on it? Coulda gotten more energy, less cost, cleaner shooting, and used less than half as much smokeless.
Editor: There are important legal differences between muzzle-loaders and breech-loading centerfire rifles. In some areas, the hunting season is extended for muzzle-loaders.
I would like to purchase the synthetic model. When can I order and expect delivery? Would like to have before next deer season.
I purchased the 700 Remington Muzzleloader. After a day at the range I must admit I had the gun. At 200 yards touching holes. I was more then happy until [Remington sent a letter demanding the gun’s return]. I was to break the gun back down. ship it back and after I received a form 4473 and filled it out I would be reshipped my gun back. For the trouble I would receive 75.00 to the Remington store. I did negotiate more money but only to be told that it was a voucher to the store and not actual cash. Well a full day off work at the range, a can of Buckhorn 209 and the cost of setting the gun up was no where near what they wanted to give me. They agreed to buy the gun back. If I am going to have to remount a scope I would just as rather start over with a new gun. I can not believe that after all the blunders that Remington has Had that they would not make sure they had the gun right and all their ducks in a row. I will not be in nth market for another until said company can become a quality manufacture of a quality firearm and not the Mickey Mouse program they run.
This is more of a troubleshooting note than a review. For those who want the synthetic model 86960 and want iron sights….
Buyer Beware!! If you plan on buying a Remington 700 Ultimate Muzzle Loader, and you plan on shooting iron/open sights, DO NOT purchase model 86960 with the Bell and Carlson stock. If you live and hunt in Colorado or Utah where it is against the law to hunt with a muzzle loader using any optics or sight system other than iron sights, this model may not be for you. I opted for the Bell and Carlson stock as a more weatherproof, lighter option (model #86960) after reading several product specs stating both models came with iron sights.
This model (#86960) does NOT come with iron sights (regardless of what ANY website or distributor advertises).
Simple solution right?! Just order/buy the sights designed for the model #86950! Well, after hours and hours of research with Remington Customer service, I found that the rear sight on the model 86950 is a standard Williams WGRS-700 peep sight item #1451 retailing for approximately $39.95 from Williams Gun Sight Co. HOWEVER, the front sight on the cannot be obtained…PERIOD!! Remington Customer Service Reps and I were BOTH educated on this new weapon. The front sight on the #86950 has three part numbers. The ramp #F28512; the sight F201985; and ramp screws (2) #F28505. The ramp screws can be obtained most anywhere using this part number. The dovetail HIGH sight post can be found but at limited locations on the web. HOWEVER, the ramp is a custom machined part designed for the Remington 700 Safari .458 Rem Mag rifle which comes from Remington’s custom shop. Per Remington Customer Service, these parts are NOT AVAILABLE to the public and the weapon must be sent to Remington to be purchased and installed. If you want the model #86960, and you want to use Remington iron sights, plan on paying another $100-$150 to use iron sights AFTER you purchase the rifle!
Now, here’s the rub! Remington offers both the laminated stock (#86950) and the Bell and Carlson stock (#86960) on this rifle. Remington advised (after weeks of constant phone calls by yours truly) that the weapon was test fired after fitting the Bell and Carlson stock, only to find out that the Bell and Carlson stock has an higher comb than the laminated stock, WHICH PLACES THE SIGHT PLANE TOO HIGH FOR THE REMINGTON IRON SIGHTS, making the Remington iron sights unusable on the model #86960! Remington decided to simply replace the iron sights with Weaver bases rather than spend additional money in R&D for a second iron sight system for this specific model.
After learning all of this, I contacted Williams Gun Sight, the manufacturer of the rear peep sight for the model #86950. All the measurements were provided to WGS, and after a trial run of their tallest sight package, there were unable to provide an iron sight system that worked with the model #86960.
I refused to give up and replace my model #86960 just so I could hunt in Colorado. After searching for more than a year, I came across XS Sights based in Ft. Worth Texas. I reviewed products on their website and gave them a call. After spending a half an hour with XS Sight Tech William Cobb he provided me with a tall, weaver-mounted ghost ring mount (rear sight) to obtain the height I needed, and a tall front sight base with several test posts for sighting in. (I was able to use the rear Weaver mount supplied by Remington with the #86960). After only a few rounds, I was able to determine the front sight height had to be almost exactly 1 inch high (including the sight base).
XS Sights provided me with a a .650 high front dovetail post and now the rifle is PERFECT for hunting in Colorado or Utah!
The XS sights are very well made, milled out of steel stock with great attention to a very nice, finished product.
The sights required for the Remington UML #86960 are specifically:
Tall Weaver Backup ghost Ring, part #WB-2001N-T
#6 x .605 C to C .39 R .340 H – Front Base, part #12-2031A-039-1
3/8 Dovetail Trapper Center Dovetail White Stripe Front Post- .650 H, part # 11-2072C-650-2
Cost for these sight parts totals $140 including shipping.
I hope this helps those who require iron sights on their #86960 but have yet to find any!
Regards!
Rob G.