Heavy Artillery — Russo Reveals the .338-408 'Big Baer'
Yesterday’s Bulletin item concerning Joel Russo shooting at 1680 yards (almost a mile) created a stir. We asked Joel for more info on his cartridge, a .338-408 “Big Baer”. This is an improved version of the .408 Cheytac, necked down to .338 caliber. Joel is currently using it with the 0.768 BC Sierra 300gr MatchKing. The parent .408 CheyTac brass, which costs over $2.00 per case, is produced by TTI Armory and Jamison Int’l (sold by Grafs.com). The TTI brass is considered superior, but it is harder to get.
Yes, readers, that’s a mighty big case. H20 capacity of the parent case is a mind-blowing 159 grains! Powders of choice for this cartridge are ultra-slow burners such as H50BMG, Norma MRP, VV N170, and Retumbo. Joel is using H50BMG powder with Federal 215 primers to push the Sierra 300gr MK over 3150 fps.
Joel tells us: “The parent case is the .408 Cheytac. I neck it down to .375 first, then to .338, then turn the necks. The shoulder blows out on the first fire-forming shot. Speaking of my .338-.408 rifle, would you believe I put a used barrel on that thing? I re-contoured it and fluted it, then gave it to Bruce Baer. It was originally chambered by Bruce as a .338-.378 Wby. It only had about 125 rounds through when it was pulled. The rifle flat-out shoots, so I guess the theories about re-contouring and fluting barrels are myths.
Although I only shoot in ultra-long-range matches once or twice a year, I shoot year-round at extended ranges. We are in the process of designing rings that will enable me to shoot this rifle out to 2,500 and 3,000 yards. We are going to put the .338 300 SMK to the test to see how far it will stay supersonic in the ‘real world’.”
Joel is a stockmaker who produces quality High Power, Long-range Benchrest, and multi-purpose stocks. For more info on the ultra-long-range shooting, contact Joel at (717) 805-0940, or jkrussos [at] comcast.net .
is that the ACTUAL size?!? no way…
Hi,
I’m very intrigued by what I just read above. I have one quiz so far; What is the velocity?
I have a shilen 27 1/2 barrel (.338-378KT) on a Whitworth action. I wonder if I could use the barrel on a whole new action……..
Terje
This article is from 2008, we have yet to see an update or edit; We are in the process of designing rings that will enable me to shoot this rifle out to 2,500 and 3,000 yards. We are going to put the .338 300 SMK to the test to see how far it will stay supersonic in the ‘real world’.””.
So How far will it stay Supersonic??? Any data yet?
I am wanting to swage a 350 grain bullet for this and use a 36” barrel.
Wish I could find more information on this.