Savage Will Offer Model 25s Chambered in 17 Hornet
Savage has confirmed that, for 2012, it will add a 17 Hornet chambering to its line-up of Model 25 varmint rifles. Savage’s decision to produce Model 25s in 17 Hornet was inspired by the release of 17 Hornet ammo from Hornady (see video below). This new rifle and ammo combo provides an affordable, centerfire option for varminters who want something more powerful than the 17 HMR. Though it has low recoil, the 17 Hornet cartridge offers plenty of speed. Hornady says its new 17 Hornet ammo will push a 20gr V-Max at 3,650 fps — that’s 1300 fps faster than a 17 HMR loaded with 20-grainers.
The 17 Hornet is based on the venerable rimmed .22 Hornet case. However, the case is not just necked-down from .22 caliber. The case designers reduced body taper, moved the shoulder, and changed the shoulder angle to 25°. This effectively modernized the old .22 Hornet case, improving efficiency while retaining the max OAL, so that the 17 Hornet can work in any action big enough for the .22 Hornet.
Hornady claims that its new ammo will push a 20gr V-Max bullet at 3650 fps. Dave Emary, Hornady’s Senior Ballistician, says that “This is just a very efficient little cartridge. It uses half the powder of the 17 Remington, has less fouling, more barrel life, and has the felt recoil of about a .22 Magnum.” Learn more by watching the video above.
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Okay… I was about >< this close to getting one in .204 Ruger, now… thinkin' I 'need' one of these instead. Looks like it should be a hoot!
Definitely cool. But will handloaders be able to match the velocity claims without the superformance ammunition technology?
With the 17AH people are getting 4000fps with the 20gr VMax and N120. I don’t think there will be too much issue.
I wonder how difficult it would be to make a 20cal version of this cartridge?.
I think I will get one of the 17 hornets ASAP. I like all small reloadable calibers.
are they out now? i want one
@ Rob,
They already did, it’s called the .204 Ruger.
I can get 4,100+ FPS pushing a 26 grain Barnes Varmint Grenade out my .204 in my Savage Model 12.
Why do I want this round?
I’m waiting on a resurgence of the 219 donaldson wasp based on 30-30 case. Wasp is right up there close to a 22-250. 219 donaldson wasp with a 40 degree shoulder and long neck should be an outstanding performer. Hope winchester chambers an 1885 for it soon.
New stuff is always good news and that’s a pretty nice cartridge. However, I don’t see the big deal…it can’t match the .17 Fireball in a Remington Mdl. 700. Out of the box with factory ammo mine delivers 3/8″ groups at 100 yds. I popped two ground squirrels with three shots at 410 yds. measured with range-finder. It wasn’t the shooter, it was the cartridge and rifle!
Very interested in this gun when i found out about it call savage on 1-16-12 they said the first guns are due out in 8-10 weeks. Got my name on a list to get one soon as my people can get their hands on it.This should be a fun rifle to play with and reload for
Looking forward to his new cartridge
small varmints look out !
i have shot the 20 and 25 grain v max for a year.if you find a little wind at 3hundred yards the wind drift is over 12 inches. At a hundred yards you can be dead on. Remington has had a 17 center fire out for years, the bolistics is so close so whats new and all the hipe!
Coming from Australia the 17 hornet looks like a good hard hitting flat shooting varmint caliber. At the time of writing savage seem to be the only gun maker with this caliber available, no thanks! Maybe in a browning, cz, or ruger. If that comes true sign me up now.
There are statements in the official releases that this will be suitable in the multiple existing Hornet rifles. That says to me that pressures are low enough for safety in a Ruger 77/22H for exampl. I’d sure like to know before rebarreling an existing Hornet. With increasing housing density there would seem to be a place for a quiet no richochet rifle, especially a light “walking varminter”. The 17’s provide unexpected performance in all their iterations.
just called Savage this morning 4/23/12. now they (sales) tolded they don’t when they will release the rifle.Accurate Shooters should contact Savage to see when Savage will offer the rifle and a for sure date,instead of keep putting the date off every time someone calls.(makes you wonder whats going on)
Does anyone know if the action and barrel will fit in furniture of Savage 17 HMR? Looks exactly the same in the photos and I have a laminated thumbhole setup already I’d like to reuse if so.
I have a .17HMR can I just git the bolt to fire the 17 center fire:?
Editor: The answer is No, not possible because of the design of the ignition system (rimfire) and the higher pressures involved. Forget that one.