New .224 Cartridge for AR Match Rifles
Robert Whitley has a new .224 version of the 6.5 Grendel cartridge. The goal was to create a low-recoil but high-BC round to use in AR-platform match rifles. Based on the performance Whitley is getting, we think this wildcat would also be an excellent bolt-gun round.
Whitley tells us: “I have recently been working on another 6.5 Grendel progeny I have made up and call the ‘.224 AR Mag’, which is the 6.5 Grendel case necked down to accept .224″ bullets. I am very impressed by this cartridge and Berger Bullets’ .224″ heavy, high-BC bullet offerings are just beautiful (dimensionally and otherwise) for use with the cartridge. I also have reloading dies for the .224 AR Mag and I am going to make up a page on my website for the sale of AR-15 uppers chambered in the .224 AR Mag.
Above you can see the new 224 AR Mag cartridge (right) next to a .223 Rem (left) and a Berger 82 gr BT bullet (right) next to a Sierra 77 gr BTHP bullet (left bullet). The Berger bullet has a good bit higher BC than the Sierra 77 BTHP (.432 BC for the Berger vs. .362 BC for the Sierra). In the 224 AR Mag, the Berger 82 gr BT bullet sits at 2.260″ OAL (.010″ off the lands and a perfect magazine length) with the junction of the boat tail and bearing surface just ahead of the neck and shoulder of the case. You cannot properly load the 82s to mag length in a .223 Rem because the case is so long the bearing surface of the bullet starts to disappear into the mouth of the case, and at magazine length the Sierra 77s sit so far back in the .223 Rem case they hog valuable powder capacity.
The .224 AR Mag has a powder capacity of 36 grains of H2O vs. about 29.5 grains of water weight capacity for the .223 Rem. That’s a major difference in powder capacity. In addition you have bullets like the .224 Berger 90gr VLD and 90gr BT bullets that have BCs of .552 and .525 that can be driven very effectively and fast by the .224 AR Mag because of its case capacity. Bear in mind the brass is all Lapua small primer brass as well — what’s not to like?
I have done chrono testing of the cartridge with Varget and RL-15, using the Berger 82 gr BT and the Berger 90 gr BT bullets. This cartridge really can spit them out fast! (See load data below).” NOTE: Whitley could drive both bullets about 100 fps faster using 28.0 grains of Varget or RL15, but those loads approached max practical pressure. Start low and work up.
Berger 82gr BT
27.0 grains Varget w/ Berger 82gr BT, MV = 2865 fps, ES = 29, SD = 14
27.0 grains RL-15 w/ Berger 82gr BT, MV = 2920 fps, ES = 15, SD = 7
Berger 90gr BT
27.0 grains Varget w/ Berger 90gr BT, MV = 2792 fps, ES = 26, SD = 12
27.0 grains RL-15 w/ Berger 90gr BT, MV = 2857 fps, ES = 12, SD = 6
CLICK HERE for Load Specs and Chron Testing Results (.pdf file).
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Tags: 6.5 Grencel, AR, High-BC, Wildcat
Whoa,that there is some mighty good stuff. Personaly, my miniscule opinion is (good use of a Grendel)
Humbley yours,
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I routinely shoot my 6.5 Grendel at 300 yard matches and it consistently shoots into 1.5″ groups. Not all that good, but that is as good as I am. This is shooting the 120 grain bullet; ergo, I see little use for s .224 that does not push a 90 grain bullet that much faster. Also, is the accuracy of the 90 grainer up to the standards of 6.5 110 or 120 grain bullets? As an FYI, the 6.5 Grendel is the most effective hog gun I have every shot.
The 90 .224 has a higher BC and less recoil then the 6.5 120. As well as im sure much less barrel life.
With a muzzle brake, I have never had any problems with recoil with the Grendel. I suspect you are correct in regards to a shorter barrel life. Sometimes trade-offs are a muther…….
The 6.5 is a perfect deer cartridge. I am pushing 123 eld with 2700 FPS velocity out of a 5r barreled 24 inch rig. With a muzzle brake it recoils less than a 223 bolt gun. I have reloaded the 90 grain stuff in my 223 with pressure signs at 2650 FPS using variety of powders. The varget seemed to stand out. And the N.C. of the hornady stuff isn’t any less than the 90 grain smk. I’m sure hornady will come out with a round with a high Bc for the Valkyrie. But I’d rather hit medium to medium large game with a 6.5 123 grain bullet than a 90 grain moving at the same trajectory and velocity. Just seems to work better. I understand that The Valkyrie actually holds a tad more powder than the grendel. But if you load the grendel correctly it is the perfect deer caliber. Then later on they will probably come out with a 6.5 Valkyrie and swear up and down it will be the best ar cartridge available. Go with what you know. The 6.5 has worked perfect for my hunting needs and had the trajectory of a 308. Now try loading those 90 grainers in a 22 250 and see how far a distance you can get.
And yes much less barrel life
It is now Nov 2018, The 224 Valkyrie is having a few issues the projectiles before they leave the barrel. While information on both the Valkyrie and the 224 AR Mag is scarce. I would like to see accuracy testing to 1000 yds and beyond. Also is there a heavier 90 gr .224 projectile? The 224 AR Mag looks promising but does being mainstream mean everything. Will they do Akley Improved 224 AR Mags. Will this compete with a 243. So many questions, so few answers and does anybody really care enough to publish research they might have. Thanks to the many wildcatters that hit mainstream status.