Hall Dominates IBS 600-Yard Nationals
The 2008 IBS 600-yard Nationals concluded Saturday at Oak Ridge, TN. Many of the nation’s top shooters were there, including multiple world record-holders. Sam Hall was the big winner at the match. He took the Two-Gun Grand Agg, while winning Heavy Gun (HG) group Agg., HG score Agg., and Light Gun (LG) Score Agg. As Greg Seigmund said, Sam “tore the place down.” Glen Sterling shot well to finish second in the Two-Gun Grand. Richard Schatz compiled an impressive 2.242″ average to win Light Gun Group Aggregate. Richard’s Dasher really performed — three of his eight LG targets were mid-inch: 1.395″, 1.473″, and 1.736″. Joel Kendrick shot the small LG group of the match, an 0.984″, but Sam Hall wasn’t far behind, with a 1.089″ on his third target.
CLICK HERE for Complete Match Results (438kb .pdf file). Equipment lists are found on pp. 9-11.
Hammerin’ Hall Talks About the Nationals
After the match, Sam gave us the details of his impressive win: “First off, I would like to thank Larry Sparks, Dave Tooley, Greg Seigmund, Larry Isenhour, Steve Shelp and everyone else that helped out to put on the match. They all did a great job. It was run very well and smoothly. Everyone I talked to said they had a really great time. I really enjoyed meeting all the guys from other states I had heard about and read about. Everyone I talked to was humble and top-notch.”
Q: How did it feel to win the Championship?
Sam: It is just starting to sink in that I won after I have got home. But, I still can’t believe I won. As they say, I was floating around on cloud nine after the win. It really meant the most to me when I got home and got to show and tell my two young boys and my wife what I had done.
Q: What were the conditions like?
Sam: We started with Light Gun each day. Every morning was pretty calm, but by mid-morning the mirage and breezes started. They were very switchy at times. We also had some pretty severe thunderstorms on the first two afternoons that “ate some peoples’ lunch”.
Q: Tell us about your equipment.
Sam: Both my Light Gun (LG) and Heavy Gun (HG) are straight 6BRs, with .268 necks. In LG I shot my Blue/White Shehane-stocked ST-1000 with 103 Spencer VLDs. The blue gun, smithed by BAT’s Tom Dixon, features a BAT M dual port, Broughton Barrel (1800 rounds), and Leupold 45X Competition scope. (Note: the equipment list is incorrect, I did not shot my Leonard-stocked gun in LG). In HG I shot another Shehane ST-1000 (orange/ white) but with Berger 105 VLDs. The orange rifle (smithed by Leonard Baity) weighs 28 lbs. (lots of lead in the stock). It has a Lilja 31″ straight-fluted barrel (800 rounds), BAT MB dual port, March 50x scope.
Q: What loads were you running?
Sam: I have been shooting the same loads in these two rifles for two years: Alliant Reloder 15, CCI BR-4 primers, Lapua brass, with 103 Spencers in my LG and 105 Berger VLDs in my HG. Both are barely in the rifling so my bolt is easy to close and I won’t pull a bullet out if I have to eject a live round (which I did have to do). My LG brass is the original 100 with about 18 reloadings. My bolt lift was getting a little sticky at the top in the middle of the day, so I put ice packs around my ammo in the heat of the day to keep pressure down. I certainly don’t recommend this to anyone! I just know this load and its limits.
Q: What was the key to victory for you?
Sam: I had the mindset when I went into the match that I was going to actually take more time shooting, remember my fundamentals, follow through each shot, and be as careful I could shooting. I figured if I did not get in a hurry, and thought through each shot, I was more likely not to have a big group that would kill me. Richard Schatz said the same thing at the end of the match. Richard tells people you don’t have to shoot little bitty groups at the Nationals to win, you just can’t shoot any really big ones.
Q: What are your plans for the rest of the season?
Sam: As far as anything new, I am actually thinking of an improved BR next year for the wind. Hoping I can get the velocity at a lower pressure. I might put these two barrels in semi-retirement and try to get another couple of barrels going. If I can’t get anything shooting better than my old barrels, I will put them back on when the stakes get high again. These two rifles and loads are like old gloves, I am used to them and trust them. They can sit unused for weeks, but when I pull them out, they perform as well as before.
The DQ Problem
Many top shooters experienced DQs during the match. In some cases the DQs were wind-related. However, a number of shooters DQ’d by shooting a record round on the sighter target which remained in place during record fire. After the match many shooters asked “Why don’t they just take down the sighter targets when record fire commences?” That would eliminate this potential problem. Alternatively, a large orange sticker could be placed over the sighter center, warning shooters not to fire at that target. In short-range benchrest, in the case of certain errant shots, there is a rule providing a 1-MOA penalty rather than a DQ. That’s worth considering for the 600-yard game.
Anyone that was there knows you can’t take the sighter target down. Both sighter and record are on the single target frame and there was a black or orange highpower spotter disc on the sighter target marking the last shot.I was one of the ones DQ’d Stupid is as stupid does. There are those of us who have shot the sighter target and those of us who are going to shoot it. Ask Sam Hall about the sign he puts up every match there. He’s one of those who has already done it.
Dave
EDITOR: Dave, that is a very good answer explaining the situation as it exists at Oak Ridge. At some other ranges there is one large target frame (that moves up and down), but the sighter and record targets are on separate backers that slide in and out of the frame on dovetailed grooves. There are many other ways to attach two targets separately within one target frame. Also, of course, the sighter targets could simply be removed from the backing frame at the end of the sighter period. It’s really not advanced technology to separate sighter target from record target.
Clearly, though, the rules aren’t so much to blame as “driver error”. Yes, Sam confirmed that he made the same mistake in the past. The question remains though–for a one-shot misfire, should a reasonable penalty be imposed (that allows the shooter to continue to participate), rather than a DQ which effectively takes the shooter out of the match entirely.
Given the time and expense involved in attending National-level matches, where some shooters may have traveled 2,000 miles or more, it may be worth discussing the option of a less draconian alternative to the DQ. Imposing a 1 MOA penalty would open the group to (roughly) 6″. If that’s not tough enough, the penalty could be 2 MOA plus a score reduction.
How would wind result in a disqualification?
EDITOR: If the wind blows a shot on to your sighter target it’s a DQ. Likewise if wind blows you off paper entirely so you have less than five shots, it’s a DQ. Basic IBS Benchrest rule: “F. DISQUALIFICATION OF TARGETS AND COMPETITORS
1. Except as hereinafter provided a target shall be disqualified for having less than the required number of shots”.
I agree that a penalty would probaby be a better way to do it. 1 MOA per shot is how NBRSA does it. I’ve seen people lose a couple of shots there and still come back and finish well in the 2 gun. I’ve suggested this in the past and have gotten a lot of resistance.
I can’t explain the rash of DQ’s this weekend. We’ve never had that large a percentage before.
We are going to have T-shirts made up for the group. They’re going to have our head strategically placed in another part of our body.
Dave
In Fifty cal FCSA, where we shoot 5 rounds each target, it requires 2 misses to DQ. One miss costs 36″ (shooting a 72″ target at 1000 yds)